[Accrs] Circus Vargas - comments

Alameda County Central Railroad Society accrs at mail.accrs.org
Thu Aug 16 05:56:26 PDT 2018 

Candice told me recently that the train show is scheduled at the 
farigrounds next year around March.

Gary


On 8/15/2018 9:30 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
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> I may have started this whole thing.   My wife relayed to me that she 
> read or heard that Circus Vargus was going to be on the Fair grounds 
> starting on Thursday.   I had no way of knowing if we were going to be 
> blocked out or not as I said in my posting.  At that point, Gary, our 
> contact with the Fair would most likely check with Candice to see if 
> the Circus would impacte our access to the club.     Gary has already 
> explained about the Good Guys if anyone paid attention during the 
> picnic and in an e-mail.    As much as we don't like it, we have to 
> tread lightly and let him be the contact and confirm or not if our 
> presence on a Friday night might cause problems.
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> I don't ever recall being open for the Scottish games as a fund 
> raiser.  A year or two ago, some members were there on either a Friday 
> night or a Saturday work party.   Some of the Scottish group dropped 
> in and this may have led to problems for the Fair.
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> Our job is to work with the Fair.   Too bad the Train Show is moving 
> to Richmond.  But, didn't they always have one there anyway.  I bet it 
> is because the rent was raised at our location.
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> Just my 2 cents worth.
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> Dean
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> On 8/15/2018 7:40 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
>> Message From: Gary Lewisglgslewis at comcast.net
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>> I was gone a couple weeks in July.  When I saw your request for us to 
>> host a Saturday run, I forwarded it to Dick, your trainmaster.  I 
>> suggest you work it with him.  I just explained the Good Guys 
>> situation.  I announced at the BBQ that it didn't look like we were 
>> going to be open for the August show and the second hand info you had 
>> was correct at that time.  However, I've kept working on it with 
>> input from other members.  The Good Guys primary mission when they 
>> rent the whole fairgounds is their show.  If they need space they 
>> have rented and it shuts us off, we are not their primary concern.  
>> If they didn't need that space, we'd still be open for their show.  
>> When I talked to her Tuesday, Candice said she'd try our suggestion 
>> with them and see if they agree.  No answer yet.  The Scottish games 
>> have never been a problem and I hear rumors that we are probably not 
>> welcome. They have never and are not this year open on Friday night.  
>> The Circus is not an issue per Candice.  She hasn't been able to get 
>> in touch yet with the Good Guys and is on vacation until Monday when 
>> she will try again.  All I saw today on e-mails was speculation on 
>> several events not grounded in reality.  My comments were not aimed 
>> at anyone in particular, but those in general who send this stuff 
>> around.
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>> Gary
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>> On 8/15/2018 5:03 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
>>> Message From: Mike Garriganbainterthepainter at gmail.com
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>>> Well Gary, your remarks seem to be directed at me. After departing 
>>> the Club BBQ, I got word that you said we were not welcome for the 
>>> Good Guys Event that is up coming. This would make the second "Good 
>>> Guys" Event that ACCRS would not be welcome. Since there has been no 
>>> announcement until today I was taking my information second hand.
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>>> Roughly one month ago, I emailed you asking permission to host a 
>>> small group of former members & other local Model Railroaders to a 
>>> Saturday Run session in September. As today, I still have heard 
>>> nothing from you on this topic. This makes things difficult to send 
>>> invitations let alone potential guests to sync there schedules.
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>>> This will make (2) Good Guys events where we are not welcome. I have 
>>> been told by multiple members of ACCRS that we are not welcome on 
>>> the grounds for the Scottish games when they take place. I'm not 
>>> sure if the Games are taking place but I do know there won't be a 
>>> model RR swap meet in late November. Did you know that the Model RR 
>>> swap meet that usually takes place around Thanksgiving has been 
>>> moved to Richmond? It doesn't seem that, other than the Fair, we are 
>>> welcome here. I hate to disagree with you sir, but this is several 
>>> area codes from jumping to conclusions. I don't jump well. I am part 
>>> of significant model RR network & the swap meet was confirmed almost 
>>> two months ago.
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>>> *Michael Garrigan*
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>>> On 15 August 2018 at 15:48, Alameda County Central Railroad Society 
>>> <accrs at mail.accrs.org <mailto:accrs at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
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>>>     Message From: Gary Lewis glgslewis at comcast.net
>>>     <mailto:glgslewis at comcast.net>
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>>>     No one at the Fair has said a word to us about any show except
>>>     Good Guys.  We seem to have a few folks who start rumors based
>>>     on what they think the Fair is up to.  Scottish games have never
>>>     been an issue and Good Guys became an issue because they wanted
>>>     to use the space between the building for storage.  I've made
>>>     suggestions to Candice about how they could still have storage
>>>     and we could be open.  She committed to talk to them about it. 
>>>     The Good Guys rent the whole fairgrounds so can use whatever
>>>     unoccupied space they want.  Circus Vargas is in a "big top"
>>>     tent which sounds like it will likely be where the carnival is
>>>     during the fair.  May not be a problem for us.  The Fair doesn't
>>>     set up events just to keep us off the grounds.  At this point, I
>>>     haven't heard back on this weekend, I've already said what's
>>>     going on with Good Guys, and I'm not going to worry about the
>>>     Scottish games.  So get your aerobic exercise by doing something
>>>     other than jumping to conclusions with no info at all.
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>>>     Gary
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>>>     On 8/15/2018 3:31 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
>>>>     Message From: Mike Garriganbainterthepainter at gmail.com <mailto:bainterthepainter at gmail.com>
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>>>>     It seems that there a message being given to us
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>>>>     On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 2:55 PM Alameda County Central Railroad
>>>>     Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org <mailto:accrs at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
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>>>>         Message From: Theodore Tully tullyme2 at gmail.com
>>>>         <mailto:tullyme2 at gmail.com>
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>>>>         Also blocked from Scottish Games, I believe.
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>>>>         And the night market is a traffic mess, if it's like last time.
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>>>>         Ted
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>>>>         On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Alameda County Central
>>>>         Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org
>>>>         <mailto:accrs at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
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>>>>             Message From: Timothy Boles tgizmo1984 at yahoo.com
>>>>             <mailto:tgizmo1984 at yahoo.com>
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>>>>             Btw Ted, we are already blocked from the Goodguys,
>>>>             that's 2 in a row
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>>>>                 On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Alameda County
>>>>                 Central Railroad Society
>>>>                 <accrs at mail.accrs.org
>>>>                 <mailto:accrs at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
>>>>                 Message From: Theodore Tully tullyme2 at gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:tullyme2 at gmail.com>
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