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    <p>Candice told me recently that the train show is scheduled at the
      farigrounds next year around March.  <br>
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    <p>Gary<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2018 9:30 PM, Alameda County
      Central Railroad Society wrote:<br>
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      <pre wrap="">Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lewis2@earthlink.net">lewis2@earthlink.net</a>



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      I may have started this whole thing.   My wife relayed to me that
      she
      read or heard that Circus Vargus was going to be on the Fair
      grounds
      starting on Thursday.   I had no way of knowing if we were going
      to be
      blocked out or not as I said in my posting.  At that point, Gary,
      our
      contact with the Fair would most likely check with Candice to see
      if
      the Circus would impacte our access to the club.     Gary has
      already
      explained about the Good Guys if anyone paid attention during the
      picnic and in an e-mail.    As much as we don't like it, we have
      to
      tread lightly and let him be the contact and confirm or not if our
      presence on a Friday night might cause problems.   <br>
      <br>
      I don't ever recall being open for the Scottish games as a fund
      raiser.  A year or two ago, some members were there on either a
      Friday
      night or a Saturday work party.   Some of the Scottish group
      dropped in
      and this may have led to problems for the Fair.<br>
      <br>
      Our job is to work with the Fair.   Too bad the Train Show is
      moving to
      Richmond.  But, didn't they always have one there anyway.  I bet
      it is
      because the rent was raised at our location.  <br>
      <br>
      Just my 2 cents worth.<br>
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      Dean<br>
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      <br>
      On 8/15/2018 7:40 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society
      wrote:
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        cite="mid:mailman.1280.1534387257.13049.accrs@mail.accrs.org"
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        <pre wrap="">Message From: Gary Lewis  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:glgslewis@comcast.net" moz-do-not-send="true">glgslewis@comcast.net</a>



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        <p>I was gone a couple weeks in July.  When I saw your request
          for us
          to host a Saturday run, I forwarded it to Dick, your
          trainmaster.  I
          suggest you work it with him.  I just explained the Good Guys
          situation.  I announced at the BBQ that it didn't look like we
          were
          going to be open for the August show and the second hand info
          you had
          was correct at that time.  However, I've kept working on it
          with input
          from other members.  The Good Guys primary mission when they
          rent the
          whole fairgounds is their show.  If they need space they have
          rented
          and it shuts us off, we are not their primary concern.  If
          they didn't
          need that space, we'd still be open for their show.  When I
          talked to
          her Tuesday, Candice said she'd try our suggestion with them
          and see if
          they agree.  No answer yet.  The Scottish games have never
          been a
          problem and I hear rumors that we are probably not welcome. 
          They have
          never and are not this year open on Friday night.  The Circus
          is not an
          issue per Candice.  She hasn't been able to get in touch yet
          with the
          Good Guys and is on vacation until Monday when she will try
          again.  All
          I saw today on e-mails was speculation on several events not
          grounded
          in reality.  My comments were not aimed at anyone in
          particular, but
          those in general who send this stuff around.    <br>
        </p>
        <p>Gary<br>
        </p>
        <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2018 5:03 PM, Alameda
          County
          Central Railroad Society wrote:<br>
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          cite="mid:mailman.1276.1534377821.13049.accrs@mail.accrs.org">
          <pre wrap="">Message From: Mike Garrigan  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bainterthepainter@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">bainterthepainter@gmail.com</a>



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            <div class="gmail_default">Well Gary, your remarks seem to
              be
              directed at me. After departing the Club BBQ, I got word
              that you said
              we were not welcome for the Good Guys Event that is up
              coming. This
              would make the second "Good Guys" Event that ACCRS would
              not be
              welcome. Since there has been no announcement until today
              I was taking
              my information second hand. </div>
            <div class="gmail_default"><br>
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            <div class="gmail_default">Roughly one month ago, I emailed
              you
              asking permission to host a small group of former members
              & other
              local Model Railroaders to a Saturday Run session in
              September. As
              today, I still have heard nothing from you on this topic.
              This makes
              things difficult to send invitations let alone potential
              guests to sync
              there schedules. </div>
            <div class="gmail_default"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="gmail_default">This will make (2) Good Guys
              events
              where we are not welcome. I have been told by multiple
              members of ACCRS
              that we are not welcome on the grounds for the Scottish
              games when they
              take place. I'm not sure if the Games are taking place but
              I do know
              there won't be a model RR swap meet in late November. Did
              you know that
              the Model RR swap meet that usually takes place around
              Thanksgiving has
              been moved to Richmond? It doesn't seem that, other than
              the Fair, we
              are welcome here. I hate to disagree with you sir, but
              this is several
              area codes from jumping to conclusions. I don't jump well.
              I am part of
              significant model RR network & the swap meet was
              confirmed almost
              two months ago. </div>
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                  <div dir="ltr"><span><span><b>Michael Garrigan</b></span></span><br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On 15 August 2018 at 15:48,
                Alameda County
                Central Railroad Society <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    href="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">accrs@mail.accrs.org</a>></span>
                wrote:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote">Message From: Gary
                  Lewis  <a href="mailto:glgslewis@comcast.net"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">glgslewis@comcast.net</a><br>
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                    <p>No one at the Fair has said a word to us about
                      any show except
                      Good Guys.  We seem to have a few folks who start
                      rumors based on what
                      they think the Fair is up to.  Scottish games have
                      never been an issue
                      and Good Guys became an issue because they wanted
                      to use the space
                      between the building for storage.  I've made
                      suggestions to Candice
                      about how they could still have storage and we
                      could be open.  She
                      committed to talk to them about it.  The Good Guys
                      rent the whole
                      fairgrounds so can use whatever unoccupied space
                      they want.  Circus
                      Vargas is in a "big top" tent which sounds like it
                      will likely be where
                      the carnival is during the fair.  May not be a
                      problem for us.  The
                      Fair doesn't set up events just to keep us off the
                      grounds.  At this
                      point, I haven't heard back on this weekend, I've
                      already said what's
                      going on with Good Guys, and I'm not going to
                      worry about the Scottish
                      games.  So get your aerobic exercise by doing
                      something other than
                      jumping to conclusions with no info at all.</p>
                    <p>Gary<br>
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                    <div class="m_-716211913495090300moz-cite-prefix">On
                      8/15/2018
                      3:31 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society
                      wrote:<br>
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                      <pre>Message From: Mike Garrigan  <a class="m_-716211913495090300moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bainterthepainter@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bainterthepainter@gmail.com</a>



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                        <div dir="auto">It seems that there a message
                          being given to us</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 2:55 PM
                            Alameda County
                            Central Railroad Society <<a
                              href="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">accrs@mail.accrs.org</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
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                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote">Message From:
                            Theodore Tully  <a
                              href="mailto:tullyme2@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tullyme2@gmail.com</a><br>
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                              <div>Also blocked from Scottish Games, I
                                believe.</div>
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                              </div>
                              <div>And the night market is a traffic
                                mess, if it's like
                                last time.</div>
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                              <div>Ted</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 15,
                                2018 at 1:38 PM,
                                Alameda County Central Railroad Society
                                <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                    href="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org"
                                    target="_blank"
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                                      From: Timothy Boles  <a
                                        href="mailto:tgizmo1984@yahoo.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">tgizmo1984@yahoo.com</a><br>
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                                  Btw Ted, we are already blocked from
                                  the Goodguys, that's 2 in a row<br>
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                                    <div>On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:35
                                      PM, Alameda County
                                      Central Railroad Society</div>
                                    <div><<a
                                        href="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org"
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                                    <div> Message From: Theodore Tully 
                                      <a
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                        <div dir="ltr"><span><span><b>Michael Garrigan</b></span></span><br>
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