[Accrs] Circus Vargas - comments

Wed Aug 15 21:30:35 PDT 2018

I may have started this whole thing.   My wife relayed to me that she 
read or heard that Circus Vargus was going to be on the Fair grounds 
starting on Thursday.   I had no way of knowing if we were going to be 
blocked out or not as I said in my posting.  At that point, Gary, our 
contact with the Fair would most likely check with Candice to see if the 
Circus would impacte our access to the club.     Gary has already 
explained about the Good Guys if anyone paid attention during the picnic 
and in an e-mail.    As much as we don't like it, we have to tread 
lightly and let him be the contact and confirm or not if our presence on 
a Friday night might cause problems.

I don't ever recall being open for the Scottish games as a fund raiser.  
A year or two ago, some members were there on either a Friday night or a 
Saturday work party.   Some of the Scottish group dropped in and this 
may have led to problems for the Fair.

Our job is to work with the Fair.   Too bad the Train Show is moving to 
Richmond.  But, didn't they always have one there anyway.  I bet it is 
because the rent was raised at our location.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Dean

On 8/15/2018 7:40 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
> Message From: Gary Lewis  glgslewis at comcast.net
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> I was gone a couple weeks in July.  When I saw your request for us to 
> host a Saturday run, I forwarded it to Dick, your trainmaster.  I 
> suggest you work it with him.  I just explained the Good Guys 
> situation.  I announced at the BBQ that it didn't look like we were 
> going to be open for the August show and the second hand info you had 
> was correct at that time.  However, I've kept working on it with input 
> from other members.  The Good Guys primary mission when they rent the 
> whole fairgounds is their show.  If they need space they have rented 
> and it shuts us off, we are not their primary concern.  If they didn't 
> need that space, we'd still be open for their show.  When I talked to 
> her Tuesday, Candice said she'd try our suggestion with them and see 
> if they agree.  No answer yet.  The Scottish games have never been a 
> problem and I hear rumors that we are probably not welcome.  They have 
> never and are not this year open on Friday night.  The Circus is not 
> an issue per Candice.  She hasn't been able to get in touch yet with 
> the Good Guys and is on vacation until Monday when she will try 
> again.  All I saw today on e-mails was speculation on several events 
> not grounded in reality.  My comments were not aimed at anyone in 
> particular, but those in general who send this stuff around.
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> Gary
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> On 8/15/2018 5:03 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
>> Message From: Mike Garriganbainterthepainter at gmail.com
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>> Well Gary, your remarks seem to be directed at me. After departing 
>> the Club BBQ, I got word that you said we were not welcome for the 
>> Good Guys Event that is up coming. This would make the second "Good 
>> Guys" Event that ACCRS would not be welcome. Since there has been no 
>> announcement until today I was taking my information second hand.
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>> Roughly one month ago, I emailed you asking permission to host a 
>> small group of former members & other local Model Railroaders to a 
>> Saturday Run session in September. As today, I still have heard 
>> nothing from you on this topic. This makes things difficult to send 
>> invitations let alone potential guests to sync there schedules.
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>> This will make (2) Good Guys events where we are not welcome. I have 
>> been told by multiple members of ACCRS that we are not welcome on the 
>> grounds for the Scottish games when they take place. I'm not sure if 
>> the Games are taking place but I do know there won't be a model RR 
>> swap meet in late November. Did you know that the Model RR swap meet 
>> that usually takes place around Thanksgiving has been moved to 
>> Richmond? It doesn't seem that, other than the Fair, we are welcome 
>> here. I hate to disagree with you sir, but this is several area codes 
>> from jumping to conclusions. I don't jump well. I am part of 
>> significant model RR network & the swap meet was confirmed almost two 
>> months ago.
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>> *Michael Garrigan*
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>> On 15 August 2018 at 15:48, Alameda County Central Railroad Society 
>> <accrs at mail.accrs.org <mailto:accrs at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
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>>     Message From: Gary Lewis glgslewis at comcast.net
>>     <mailto:glgslewis at comcast.net>
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>>     No one at the Fair has said a word to us about any show except
>>     Good Guys.  We seem to have a few folks who start rumors based on
>>     what they think the Fair is up to.  Scottish games have never
>>     been an issue and Good Guys became an issue because they wanted
>>     to use the space between the building for storage.  I've made
>>     suggestions to Candice about how they could still have storage
>>     and we could be open.  She committed to talk to them about it. 
>>     The Good Guys rent the whole fairgrounds so can use whatever
>>     unoccupied space they want.  Circus Vargas is in a "big top" tent
>>     which sounds like it will likely be where the carnival is during
>>     the fair.  May not be a problem for us.  The Fair doesn't set up
>>     events just to keep us off the grounds.  At this point, I haven't
>>     heard back on this weekend, I've already said what's going on
>>     with Good Guys, and I'm not going to worry about the Scottish
>>     games.  So get your aerobic exercise by doing something other
>>     than jumping to conclusions with no info at all.
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>>     Gary
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>>     On 8/15/2018 3:31 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
>>>     Message From: Mike Garriganbainterthepainter at gmail.com  <mailto:bainterthepainter at gmail.com>
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>>>     It seems that there a message being given to us
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>>>     On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 2:55 PM Alameda County Central Railroad
>>>     Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org <mailto:accrs at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
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>>>         Message From: Theodore Tully tullyme2 at gmail.com
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>>>         Also blocked from Scottish Games, I believe.
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>>>         And the night market is a traffic mess, if it's like last time.
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>>>         Ted
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>>>         On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Alameda County Central
>>>         Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org
>>>         <mailto:accrs at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
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>>>             Message From: Timothy Boles tgizmo1984 at yahoo.com
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>>>             Btw Ted, we are already blocked from the Goodguys,
>>>             that's 2 in a row
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>>>             Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>>                 On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Alameda County
>>>                 Central Railroad Society
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>>>                 Message From: Theodore Tully tullyme2 at gmail.com
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