[Accrs] It happened again

Tue May 29 16:27:52 PDT 2018

I'm not talking about rules. Until yesterday I had no clue how to turn on
their cooling system. I think a "How To" book for just those issues that
were brought up

On Tue, May 29, 2018, 16:23 Alameda County Central Railroad Society <
accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:

> Message From: Larry Brickell  colorado at onemain.com
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> I like this club for its lack of lots of rules and policies. We ALL just
> need to be careful and responsible. Not lots of rules, just be adults.
>
> Larry Brickell
> 925-314-5003 cell
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> On May 28, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <
> accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
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> Message From: Tony Long  tony.long at outlook.com
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> Sounds like we should have a tutorial session on the protocol for opening
> and closing the building and every member that wants to use the club be
> required to learn how to power everything up and off on both sides of the
> aisle.  If you are the last one in the building it is “Your” responsibility
> to ensure the power is off and the building is secured before you drive
> off.   And if there is something powered on across your aisle it’s still
> your responsibility (regardless of scale).   You can always call someone
> and or email someone – doing nothing and saying nothing is not acceptable.
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> If this happens again we will meet to have a vote on improving the process
> and to ensure compliance by installing  video security cameras with remote
> control and cloud storage for easy access.  In additional,  implementing
> AI, Facial Recognition (FR), License Plate readers and Voice Recognition
> will allow us to develop very high tech, state of the art,  security and
> monitoring that doesn’t require much manual effort to know who is coming
> and going.   We can even implement FR for unlocking the door.
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> *From:* Accrs <accrs-bounces at mail.accrs.org> on behalf of Alameda County
> Central Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2018 11:01:13 AM
> *To:* accrs at mail.accrs.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Accrs] It happened again
>
> Message From: Paula Bursley  pbursley at comcast.net
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> Phil, when we got there yesterday after you had been there in the morning,
> everything was turned off. The only thing I noticed were the trees on the
> ledge at the port, and I think we all realize we shouldn’t set things there
> and have discussed that enough for now.
>
> We have come to the club many times when things were left on. Nicholas and
> I will put together a simple shut down list for the HO side. Not sure if O
> has or needs anything like that.
>
> I think your assessment of the reasoning behind zeroing out the door lock
> is correct Phil. It is a way to force all four numbers to be changed when
> locking the door.
>
> Paula
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 28, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <
> accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
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> > Message From: Phil Edholm  pedholm at pkeconsulting.com
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> > I was at the club until from 9-12 AM yesterday and came back about 3 or
> so (apologies to the HO folks for the trees in the ledge 🙄). When I left
> at noon, I am 99% sure the lights were off, though I knew I would be back
> in an hour or two so there is a small probability I left them on. I may
> have just spun all 4 tumblers because I was coming back later. When I got
> back there were folks there on the HO side  if it was me who left the
> lights on then the HO layout had been on a while as I definitely did not
> turn it on (working on the O scenery).  That means it was left on on
> Saturday or Friday. Quite frankly, as I was not using the HO layout I never
> thought of seeing if it was on. A suggestion for both sides that we wire a
> light on the aisle by the north door that is visible and is wired off the
> mains power to each layout so it is easy to see if it is left on. After the
> fair discussion.
> >
> > BTW. I have used the four tumbler padlocks before in other security
> situations and have never been pedantic about setting the tumblers to a
> “safe” code. It is critical to spin all four tumblers to assure maximum
> divergence from the open code (leaving it to a number where only one
> tumbler was moved one number is foolish). The only reason to set it to 0000
> is to assure it is always randomized by us. I agree it is a good idea as it
> forces the randomization.
> >
> > Phil Edholm
> > PKE Consulting
> > @PEdholm
> > Office 9252649420
> >
> >
> >> On May 26, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <
> accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Message From: Larry  colorado at onemain.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dean,
> >> I haven't been to the club in a couple of weeks so it wasn't me but I
> have an opinion on this. This is negligent and could lead to  a fire or
> other problem not to mention higher utility bills.
> >>
> >> It would be good to teach some of us O scalers how to shut down the HO
> side and visa versa.  If I were the
> >> last one at the club I would have no idea where the switches were.
> The HO people need to know how to
> >> shut down the O scale side just in case it is left on as well.
> >>
> >> As for the locks, I never knew that you wanted  them set to zero.  I
> always spin them randomly to make sure that the combination
> >> is not showing, that is the main thing.
> >>
> >> By the way the back lock is bad.  The wheels don't click which makes it
> very hard to unlock or to stay on zero once locked.
> >>
> >> Larry Brickell
> >>
> >> Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
> >>
> >>> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This may not apply to the O-Scale group, but I think we all need to be
> aware.
> >>>
> >>> I arrived yesterday at our building at 2:00pm.  The lock wasn't set to
> all "zeros" but had properly been put in place.
> >>>
> >>> Both sets of club florescent lights were on.   I walked over to the HO
> control panel, pulled out the laptop drawer and low and behold, it was warm
> and running.
> >>>
> >>> Someone, most likely on the HO side, is not following proper procedure
> to turn off the equipment and lights.  Whoever it is needs to stop.  This
> has happened too often.   If it doesn't stop, I suggest that person loose
> club privileges.
> >>>
> >>> Just my take.   Stuff could have been on for only a short time, or for
> several days.   We got to take care of the club.   It isn't just a place
> for you to run your train and not follow the rules.
> >>>
> >>> Dean
> >>>
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