[Accrs] It happened again
Alameda County Central Railroad Society
accrs at mail.accrs.org
Tue May 29 16:23:11 PDT 2018
I like this club for its lack of lots of rules and policies. We ALL just need to be careful and responsible. Not lots of rules, just be adults.
Larry Brickell
925-314-5003 cell
> On May 28, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
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> Message From: Tony Long tony.long at outlook.com
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> Sounds like we should have a tutorial session on the protocol for opening and closing the building and every member that wants to use the club be required to learn how to power everything up and off on both sides of the aisle. If you are the last one in the building it is “Your” responsibility to ensure the power is off and the building is secured before you drive off. And if there is something powered on across your aisle it’s still your responsibility (regardless of scale). You can always call someone and or email someone – doing nothing and saying nothing is not acceptable.
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> If this happens again we will meet to have a vote on improving the process and to ensure compliance by installing video security cameras with remote control and cloud storage for easy access. In additional, implementing AI, Facial Recognition (FR), License Plate readers and Voice Recognition will allow us to develop very high tech, state of the art, security and monitoring that doesn’t require much manual effort to know who is coming and going. We can even implement FR for unlocking the door.
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> From: Accrs <accrs-bounces at mail.accrs.org> on behalf of Alameda County Central Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:01:13 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Accrs] It happened again
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> Message From: Paula Bursley pbursley at comcast.net
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> Phil, when we got there yesterday after you had been there in the morning, everything was turned off. The only thing I noticed were the trees on the ledge at the port, and I think we all realize we shouldn’t set things there and have discussed that enough for now.
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> We have come to the club many times when things were left on. Nicholas and I will put together a simple shut down list for the HO side. Not sure if O has or needs anything like that.
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> I think your assessment of the reasoning behind zeroing out the door lock is correct Phil. It is a way to force all four numbers to be changed when locking the door.
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> Paula
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> > On May 28, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
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> > Message From: Phil Edholm pedholm at pkeconsulting.com
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> > I was at the club until from 9-12 AM yesterday and came back about 3 or so (apologies to the HO folks for the trees in the ledge 🙄). When I left at noon, I am 99% sure the lights were off, though I knew I would be back in an hour or two so there is a small probability I left them on. I may have just spun all 4 tumblers because I was coming back later. When I got back there were folks there on the HO side if it was me who left the lights on then the HO layout had been on a while as I definitely did not turn it on (working on the O scenery). That means it was left on on Saturday or Friday. Quite frankly, as I was not using the HO layout I never thought of seeing if it was on. A suggestion for both sides that we wire a light on the aisle by the north door that is visible and is wired off the mains power to each layout so it is easy to see if it is left on. After the fair discussion.
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> > BTW. I have used the four tumbler padlocks before in other security situations and have never been pedantic about setting the tumblers to a “safe” code. It is critical to spin all four tumblers to assure maximum divergence from the open code (leaving it to a number where only one tumbler was moved one number is foolish). The only reason to set it to 0000 is to assure it is always randomized by us. I agree it is a good idea as it forces the randomization.
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> > Phil Edholm
> > PKE Consulting
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> >> On May 26, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
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> >> Message From: Larry colorado at onemain.com
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> >> Dean,
> >> I haven't been to the club in a couple of weeks so it wasn't me but I have an opinion on this. This is negligent and could lead to a fire or other problem not to mention higher utility bills.
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> >> It would be good to teach some of us O scalers how to shut down the HO side and visa versa. If I were the
> >> last one at the club I would have no idea where the switches were. The HO people need to know how to
> >> shut down the O scale side just in case it is left on as well.
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> >> As for the locks, I never knew that you wanted them set to zero. I always spin them randomly to make sure that the combination
> >> is not showing, that is the main thing.
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> >> By the way the back lock is bad. The wheels don't click which makes it very hard to unlock or to stay on zero once locked.
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> >> Larry Brickell
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> >> Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
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> >>> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis lewis2 at earthlink.net
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> >>> This may not apply to the O-Scale group, but I think we all need to be aware.
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> >>> I arrived yesterday at our building at 2:00pm. The lock wasn't set to all "zeros" but had properly been put in place.
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> >>> Both sets of club florescent lights were on. I walked over to the HO control panel, pulled out the laptop drawer and low and behold, it was warm and running.
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> >>> Someone, most likely on the HO side, is not following proper procedure to turn off the equipment and lights. Whoever it is needs to stop. This has happened too often. If it doesn't stop, I suggest that person loose club privileges.
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> >>> Just my take. Stuff could have been on for only a short time, or for several days. We got to take care of the club. It isn't just a place for you to run your train and not follow the rules.
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> >>> Dean
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