[Accrs-ho] March Good Guys

Sun Mar 8 20:57:01 PDT 2015

Thanks, John.  Well stated.

Andy H.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:54 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
wrote:

> Message From: Wayne Toigo  w_toigo at hotmail.com
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>    Well put John.
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> -Wayne
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> *From:* Accrs-ho [mailto:accrs-ho-bounces at mail.accrs.org] *On Behalf Of *ACCRS
> HO Scale
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2015 8:30 PM
> *To:* accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Accrs-ho] March Good Guys
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> I guess I’ll weigh in with my two cents worth.  Our HO scale membership is
> made up with a wide range of analog/DCC capabilities—a few with only analog
> rolling stock to some that have only DCC equipment with a diverse ratio in
> between.  There are both active and seldom seen members at both ends of
> that spectrum.  As a separate issue, but related to the point I am about to
> make, it is rare that there are more members than needed signed up for
> staffing an open house event.  My point therefore, if we start having only
> DCC operations for open house events, we exclude some of our active members
> from participating.  I don’t believe our club is strong enough for that yet.
>
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> Before we start scheduling DCC-only open house events we should engage in
> a thorough evaluation of the consequences of that action.  Although I don’t
> recall there being a vote on the subject for the upcoming Good Guys show, I
> don’t believe a simple majority vote is appropriate here.  Such a vote
> simply means that the majority wins and the minority looses.  Although that
> may seem to be the logical result of any vote, the Analog/DCC issue has
> more profound consequences.  Going to DCC-only is tantamount to amending
> the ACCRS bylaws to say that only DCC members will be welcome.  Are we
> ready for that?  I don’t believe we are.
>
>
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> By this argument, I am not proposing that we must forever split operations
> 50/50 analog/DCC for each weekend event.  However, if there is a DCC only
> event, there should be an olive branch offered to the analog members for an
> analog day somewhere in the future.  Even Friday nights might migrate to
> something other than a 50/50 allocation of time.  Whatever the future of
> this issue, let’s make sure all voices are heard, even the ones that remain
> silent in a charged environment.
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> Let’s not let this issue be a divisive one.
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>
>
> John Kolberg
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> To: accrs-ho <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 4:40 pm
> Subject: Re: [Accrs-ho] March Good Guys
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> Message From: Gary Barbano  gary_barbano at yahoo.com
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>   Hello Members
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>
> I have been monitoring the emails over who is upset to have DC
>
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> I argue to have operations with DC during events WE as a club are
> obligated to be OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
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> Our club is one of the last bay area clubs to operate a Duel Mode
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> Members like myself and Lee and Andy H are owners of models MEANT to
> operate on DC Voltage
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> DCC operators of our club as well as DC operators of our club MUST respect
> eachother and give COMPROMISE to operate both modes
>
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> This is on my mind
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> Thank You  Gary B
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> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 4:35 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> wrote:
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> I agree with Lee.  I would like to convert my Analog units to DCC.
> Unfortunately, I have several
>
> brass units that aren't the easiest to convert over.  Yes, DCC is a
> smoother operation to run trains.
>
> I will still go along with what the club majority wants to run.
>
>
>
> Andy H.
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> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 4:19 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> wrote:
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> Message From: Lee And Joan Buckner  buckyrailfan at aol.com
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>
> Group:
>
> This is Lee, and I too have some DCC locomotives to run on the layout, and
> will in the future be having some of my analog locomotives converted to
> DCC, and in fact that is in the works now.  Some of them, hopefully will be
> ready for the fair, which I presume will be all DCC this year.  There are
> also DCC locomotives that are coming out that I have my eye on, but being a
> retiree, will have to budget accordingly.
>
> What I object to is that I was shouted down by that certain member, and
> wasn't allowed to say my piece.  The club is for all of us.  I pay my dues,
> the same as other members, and have participated in most all the past
> shows.  The back of my vests say ACCRS, not the name of that certain
> member.  I asked to have DC on Sunday, not the Saturday that certain member
> will be there, and I didn't get the chance, as I said to state my piece.
>
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> Lee
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ACCRS HO Scale < accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> To: accrs-ho < accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 1:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [Accrs-ho] March Good Guys
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> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
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>
>  None of those DCC locos were purchased by the club.   I donated them.
>
> Dean
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> On 3/8/2015 1:01 PM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
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> Message From: Paul Newhouse  pimininca at gmail.com
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>   I recall the vote being taken.  Whether or not all DCC is fair, or not,
> is clear to me, it's not.  Never mind I voted yes.  We should probably, at
> least, consider a few more DCC engines and perhaps trains.  I'm thinking
> passenger trains, right now I believe the only really functional passenger
> train is the Amtrak.   Also a few more DCC freight engines.  While I
> understand what drove the "locking up" of the current DCC engines (are we
> still doing that?) it seems counter productive (let's by stuff which we
> feel is too valuable to run??)
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> Just a thought or two on the subject.
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> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:56 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> wrote:
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> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
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>  Group,
>
> I cut out early on the February meeting and didn't get in on the
> discussion.   I have been in the hobby for a long time and also gathered a
> sizable stable of analog locomotives.   Some I have put in lots of hours on
> them running on the layout and others that are just collecting dust as they
> have *never been run.*
>
> I feel that the future will be with DCC (I voted against it way back when)
> and have been actively converting those locos, that I feel I am most apt to
> want to run, to DCC.   I have some in my locker that are still analog for
> use when DCC is not the choice for the day I am running on the layout.
>
> Other than the expense of the decoder (which can be a problem to those
> with limited funds) the installation isn't too difficult.  Some are just
> direct "plug and play".  Others are not much more complicated than putting
> together one of the more modern kits.   Why don't we do a clinic on
> installing decoders.   Also, maybe if we got together, as a club, we might
> be able to purchase a bunch at a discount.
>
> Operation is certainly easier and better with DCC and I know that some
> that like to run analog have difficulties with the switches and buttons on
> the control panel and depend on those that know how to run it.   With DCC,
> most of these problems disappear.
>
> Dean
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> On 3/8/2015 10:36 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
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> Message From: Marc Stearman  dmstearman at gmail.com
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>   I actually raised the question at the Feb meeting about whether or not
> to run all DCC. There was a little bit of discussion and we did make the
> decision to run both days as DCC. I also have a lot of analog, but also
> agree that the shows tend to run smoother with more trains on DCC. I
> believe we could loan some of the club DCC engines to people who only have
> analog for the shows.
>
>
>
> Ed, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
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>
> Marc Stearman
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> On Mar 7, 2015, at 4:43 PM, ACCRS HO Scale < accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> wrote:
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>  Message From: Gary Barbano  gary_barbano at yahoo.com
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>   Hello Members,
>
>
>
> I join Lee with his argument over how operations are being decided
>
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> Our club has vast numbers of members who still op to run trains on Analog
> and I am one of them
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> I choose to participate in these matters to voice my position just as Lee
> and Andy
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> This is on my mind to get my interest in with our club
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> Thank You
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>
>
> Gary B
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> On Saturday, March 7, 2015 4:34 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <
> accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
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> Ed:
>
> Not all of us decided to do DCC for the good guys show, and I don't
> remember any vote taken on it.
>
> I know I got shouted down by a certain member, when I asked to do DC on
> Sunday.
>
> Hence, I won't be participating in the Good Guys show, or any other shows,
> with the exception of the Fair, and the Train Show, if there is one on site.
>
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>
> Lee
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> Sent: Fri, Mar 6, 2015 5:58 pm
> Subject: [Accrs-ho] March Good Guys
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> Message From: Ed Carreno  myputertech at gmail.com
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>
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>   All,
>
>
>
> At last month’s meeting we decided to do DCC for both days. If anyone has
> any questions about that and/or is willing or prefers to do DC for one of
> the days, please let me know. The schedule will be posted at the club and
> on the web.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Ed Carreno
>
> HO Train Master
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> ACCRS
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