<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Phil, It was Friday that I arrived around 2:00 and everything was on. No one showed up while I was there that was coming back because they were working on the layout. I understand you about the lights as we all do that, "when we are coming back right away". It is when the lights don't get that final "off" before we all leave and they are on for perhaps days at a time. Dean On 5/28/2018 8:16 AM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:mailman.510.1527521484.13049.accrs@mail.accrs.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Message From: Phil Edholm <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pedholm@pkeconsulting.com">pedholm@pkeconsulting.com</a> I was at the club until from 9-12 AM yesterday and came back about 3 or so (apologies to the HO folks for the trees in the ledge 🙄). When I left at noon, I am 99% sure the lights were off, though I knew I would be back in an hour or two so there is a small probability I left them on. I may have just spun all 4 tumblers because I was coming back later. When I got back there were folks there on the HO side if it was me who left the lights on then the HO layout had been on a while as I definitely did not turn it on (working on the O scenery). That means it was left on on Saturday or Friday. Quite frankly, as I was not using the HO layout I never thought of seeing if it was on. A suggestion for both sides that we wire a light on the aisle by the north door that is visible and is wired off the mains power to each layout so it is easy to see if it is left on. After the fair discussion. BTW. I have used the four tumbler padlocks before in other security situations and have never been pedantic about setting the tumblers to a “safe” code. It is critical to spin all four tumblers to assure maximum divergence from the open code (leaving it to a number where only one tumbler was moved one number is foolish). The only reason to set it to 0000 is to assure it is always randomized by us. I agree it is a good idea as it forces the randomization. Phil Edholm PKE Consulting @PEdholm Office 9252649420 </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On May 26, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org"><accrs@mail.accrs.org></a> wrote: Message From: Larry <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:colorado@onemain.com">colorado@onemain.com</a> Dean, I haven't been to the club in a couple of weeks so it wasn't me but I have an opinion on this. This is negligent and could lead to a fire or other problem not to mention higher utility bills. It would be good to teach some of us O scalers how to shut down the HO side and visa versa. If I were the last one at the club I would have no idea where the switches were. The HO people need to know how to shut down the O scale side just in case it is left on as well. As for the locks, I never knew that you wanted them set to zero. I always spin them randomly to make sure that the combination is not showing, that is the main thing. By the way the back lock is bad. The wheels don't click which makes it very hard to unlock or to stay on zero once locked. Larry Brickell Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lewis2@earthlink.net">lewis2@earthlink.net</a> This may not apply to the O-Scale group, but I think we all need to be aware. I arrived yesterday at our building at 2:00pm. The lock wasn't set to all "zeros" but had properly been put in place. Both sets of club florescent lights were on. I walked over to the HO control panel, pulled out the laptop drawer and low and behold, it was warm and running. Someone, most likely on the HO side, is not following proper procedure to turn off the equipment and lights. Whoever it is needs to stop. This has happened too often. If it doesn't stop, I suggest that person loose club privileges. Just my take. Stuff could have been on for only a short time, or for several days. We got to take care of the club. It isn't just a place for you to run your train and not follow the rules. 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