<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_2997" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_2999">How about we do an inventory of cars we have and do an evaluation before we begin adding more?</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_3580" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_3579"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_3582" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_3581">In my opinion we have too many club cars now. The cabinet in the hidden yard is full, as are all of the sidings in Oildale and the port, which means any additional cars will end up in the hidden and freight yards taking up one more tracks there. I think the freight yard is pretty much full now and hidden is getting that way. If we cull the cars we have now, getting rid of the ones that are beyond repair and fix the others it would upgrade the fleet without clogging the yard. If everybody selected an era of preference and took responsibility for all of the club cars in that era it would spread the maintenance effort. </span></div><div id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3145" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3130" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3174">As for the cars with the pipes, they are Pennsylvania RR which went away in 1968. That makes them appropriate to pull with steam or first generation diesel, but not contemporary power. I doubt many people notice, or care, about the trucks. I also doubt the green protective coating was used that far back. BUT they are attractive and reliable, which can't be said for a lot of the club cars. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_4073" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_3839"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_4055" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_4054">Prototype accuracy is probably beyond our ability (and probably desire) at this stage, but prototypical REASONABLENESS could be achieved with a little effort. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span>I look forward to the discussion.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_4011" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_4012" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_4053">Dennis</span></div><div class="yiv3131214790qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_2998" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_3544"><br><br></div><div class="yiv3131214790yqt3491482166" id="yiv3131214790yqtfd29794"><title></title><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_3543"><div id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3086">
Lee,<br clear="none">
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Yes it is a topic for discussion and to think about. August will be
the annual BBQ. September would be on Labor Day weekend and probably
the Good Guys car show. October would be the first real opportunity
to hold a meeting when most of us could attend and it would come about
the time we should start paying dues. Dues of $25 per year are really
great when other clubs charge $40-$60 PER MONTH. A car from your era
would be a small expense given our dues. I know that I have a few
duplicates running around the layout that say "club" on the bottom.
That string of 10 grey balast cars were made from cars I had
accumulated a long time ago. They are club cars now. The earlier
two empty ones I also added a long time ago. They are appropriate for
several eras.<br clear="none">
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Dean<br clear="none">
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On 7/9/2017 8:02 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
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<pre id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3087">Message From: Lee And Joan Buckner <a class="yiv3131214790moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:buckyrailfan@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:buckyrailfan@aol.com">buckyrailfan@aol.com</a>
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Hi Guys:<font color="black" face="arial" size="2">
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<div id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3095">That sounds like a good idea to me, that each of us donates a
high quality car to the club of an era we each choose. Can discuss it
at a club meeting, which I hope to be able to attend in the near future.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499714191101_3545">Lee <br clear="none">
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To: accrs <a class="yiv3131214790moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org"><accrs@mail.accrs.org></a><br clear="none">
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is nothing wrong with running steam. Most of the club cars that
would fit in that era are in the worse shape. They have been around
the longest. Running steam with modern cars is not realistic unless
it is an excursion. <b><font color="#3333ff">For shows and the Fair,
is only seems appropriate to run cars that match the era. </font></b>
I have a whole string of ATSF 40' reefers that I would run with
F-units. I certainly wouldn't run them with a SD40-2. Likewise, I
wouldn't run my 4-8-4 on the TOFC train I was running the other day.
Let's clean and rehab the cars that we have, get rid of the junky ones
and go from there.<br clear="none">
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Here is a novel idea. Why don't each of us donate a new quality car,
of an era of our choice, to the club. That would more than make of for
those we should remove from service. Pay our annual dues and add a
new car at the same time. Now that would make a CLUB.<br clear="none">
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<div>I think we should keep a fleet of roolingstock that
is older than the 70s for those of us that like running steam. Being
there are some members that are picky and chew out members running
equipment that is out of era in one form or another. I personally
don't want to come to the club to get chewed out because all I could
bring was a locomotive and the only cars available are out of era.
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<div>Before any disposal takes place this should be
brought up in a meeting. This is a CLUB environment and not a personal
railroad. We need to as a club represent multiple facets of the
railroading world and not scare people off because what they want to
model differs. </div>
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<div>Andy K.</div>
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<div class="yiv3131214790aolmail_gmail_quote">On Jul 8, 2017 1:16 PM, "Alameda
County
Central Railroad Society" <<a href="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:accrs@mail.accrs.org">accrs@mail.accrs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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From:
Dean & Margaret Lewis <a href="mailto:lewis2@earthlink.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lewis2@earthlink.net">lewis2@earthlink.net</a><br clear="none">
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Good old person to person contact is best. Sure technology is a
wonderful thing, but for us, it really doesn't seem like the way to
go. I would rather see us do more on the layout.<br clear="none">
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We could add another lightning bolt or two. We could change out all
those hot colored lights with LED's. It would make it cooler in the
building. Adding the hot box detector on 37 with speakers by the
control panel would be a nice addition.<br clear="none">
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I also would like to see a concerted effort to clean and rehab the club
cars. Some of them need to go in the dumpster. They have really come
to the end of being useful. I have worked on several cars that need
repair but I can't do it all. I know that each of us have a period we
like to model. With that said, I think that freight cars that can't
resonably be used in a semi modern era of mid 70's and on should be
dropped from the club freight cars. Those are the ones in the worst
shape. Cars like the green pipe loads are nice, but they have old
friction bearing trucks. If we want to continue to use them,
replacing the trucks with modern roller bearing trucks might be an idea.<br clear="none">
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WE just need to get everything back to as close to like new as we can
get it.<br clear="none">
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Dean<br clear="none">
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On 7/8/2017 11:42 AM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:<br clear="none">
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How much will it cost and are you volunteering to set it up and
maintain it? Will it say hello to visitors and answer their questions?<br clear="none">
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</div></div><div class="yiv3131214790yqt8367707328" id="yiv3131214790yqtfd97930">Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis <a href="mailto:lewis2@earthlink.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lewis2@earthlink.net">lewis2@earthlink.net</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3131214790yqt8367707328" id="yiv3131214790yqtfd86200">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Accrs mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Accrs@mail.accrs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Accrs@mail.accrs.org">Accrs@mail.accrs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="https://mail.accrs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/accrs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">https://mail.accrs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/accrs</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> </div></div><div class=".yiv3131214790yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3071" style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3070" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3069" dir="ltr"> <font id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3068" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><div class="yiv3131214790yqt3491482166" id="yiv3131214790yqtfd49751"><hr size="1" id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3067"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Alameda County Central Railroad Society <accrs@mail.accrs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> accrs@mail.accrs.org <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:03 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Accrs] Club Cars vs Era (changed heading to reflect the topic)<br clear="none"> </div></div><div class="yiv3131214790yqt3491482166" id="yiv3131214790yqtfd27765"> <div class="yiv3131214790y_msg_container" id="yiv3131214790yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499696077696_3085"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv3131214790"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>