[Accrs] What does this say about the Pleasanton Fair?
Alameda County Central Railroad Society
accrs at mail.accrs.org
Sun Apr 26 08:09:12 PDT 2020
In my humble opinion.
On 4/26/2020 1:26 AM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
> Message From: Gary Barbano gary_barbano at yahoo.com
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> Please let me know what does the acronym IMHO mean? Thank You Gary B
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> On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 7:29:26 PM PDT, Alameda County Central
> Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
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> All,
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> We don't need to have a discussion about accessing the grounds. It's
> simple. I call them again and see if accessibility has changed. End
> of discussion. Starting Monday, they are having a drive thru COVID 19
> testing entering at Gate 12. Access may be no further than the
> parking area, but maybe there is an opening here. I'll let everyone
> know what they say when I call them this week concerning access. I
> don't think there is much need for a Board of Directors meeting early
> or a business meeting for that matter. The only thing to report will
> be whether we access or not. There is nothing we can do related to our
> facility without access. We can talk about it until we are blue in
> the face, but it changes nothing until we have access. Editorial
> comment: IMHO, Newsom has taken unnecessarily draconian measures. He's
> not directly involved with our access to the grounds, but there's no
> good reason 5-10 of us can't access the grounds on a Friday evening.
> If Newsom does what he says, there will be massive personal and
> business bankruptcies across the state. Like I said, IMHO.
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> Gary
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> On 4/25/2020 5:45 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
>> Message From: Phil Edholmpedholm at pkeconsulting.com <mailto:pedholm at pkeconsulting.com>
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> Guys, I do not want to be a downer, but for this summer at least, the
> probability of structured events of more than 10 or maybe 20 or at
> most 50 people is probably very unlikely. The fair is hundreds of
> thousands total, tens of thousands per day, it is not going to happen.
> I went over this topic on the NMRA Coast Division meetup last Saturday
> and with the Coast Division Board before we cancelled the June 7th
> Coast Division event/auction in San Leandro. The key is the answer
> Governor Newsome gives below to the reporter's question during his
> opening up press conference on April 14 about how much things will
> "look different" this year for summer events and schools in the fall.
> The text below is from the transcript of the press conference (my
> highlights in bold). Read the highlighted parts ("negligible at
> best", "hundreds, thousands, …….. is not in the cards", and " June,
> July, August, it is unlikely"). Now decide how much we want to bet
> there will be 300,000-500,000 people over 18 days at the fairgrounds
> starting in mid-June....... there are major concerns about having 30
> kids in a classroom in the fall. How do you social distance at a
> county fair? Plus, how many of you would be excited about taking your
> families to the fair this summer? I personally would bet there is zero
> chance of a fair this year, probably not any realistic chance for
> either of the Good Guys summer events as well. Hopefully, by the fall,
> there will be some realistic and proven high positive outcome
> treatment options so larger events can return.
> As to access to the ACCRS facility on the Fairgrounds to retrieve
> members personal property, unfortunately left there due to the
> unanticipated velocity and radical closure impacts of the pandemic
> shut-down, we should discuss how we can potentially get access next
> week during our Friday Night meetup standing. I am going to propose we
> use next Friday Zoom Meetup as our on-line business meeting. If there
> is a desire to have a pre-general meetup ACCRS board meetup we can do
> that.
> Unfortunately, based on the Newsome stuff below and the relative large
> size of events the fair must host for practical profitability and to
> justify opening and having staff return exceeding what the governor is
> anticipating, I personally doubt they will open the fairgrounds this
> summer at all. Therefore, if ACCRS members want to gain access to the
> building to get items, we should develop an "access proposal" for Gary
> to present to the fair. Perhaps we can propose "staggering" our
> individual access to the building over an extended period of
> days/weeks (we can credit the governor) so social distancing or
> sharing common spaces would not be an issue with access to the closed
> space. Ask to have some time(s) so Gary can assign a slot to a member
> to get in for 30 minutes or an hour to access their property. We can
> do two or three pre-set times every week if enough member want
> access. See if they will agree to a proposal. Probably a one shot
> access for each of us though. Bring your thoughts Friday.
> From Governor Newsome June 14th Press Conference on re-opening
> California - during the Q&A (time marks are minutes into the conference):
> Kathleen Ronayne: (49:34)
> Hi governor. So I understand that you’re not giving a key timeline of
> when these things are going to change, but more broadly you’ve
> outlined pretty radical changes in what our daily life looks like in
> California, even as we start to lift these orders. So we’ve got some
> pretty big holidays coming up into the summer, Memorial day, July 4th,
> I mean, walk me through, if things go to plan, if we’re able to meet
> some of these measures, how do those big holidays, how does the summer
> look different for Californians? And following on that how does the
> school year in the fall look different for California students if we
> meet all these measures and we’re able to start doing some of what
> you’ve talked about?
> Governor Gavin Newsom: (50:17)
> I appreciate it. Thank you for the question because you’ve also
> offered me an opportunity to say something that I wasn’t clear about
> in the initial presentation, and that is as it relates to mass
> gatherings. The *prospect of mass gatherings is negligible at best
> until we get to herd immunity and we get to a vaccine*. So *large
> scale events that bring in hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of
> strangers all together across every conceivable difference, health and
> otherwise is not in the cards* based upon our current guidelines and
> current expectations, things can change radically, and we of course
> can have therapeutics at scale, the kind of community testing at
> scale, the serology tests at scale and capacity to get vaccines
> earlier than we anticipated. That can change that dynamic. So I want
> to caution my own words in that context, but when you *suggest June,
> July, August, it is unlikely*.
> Governor Gavin Newsom: (52:03)
> As I mentioned to you, we’ve got these teams of people and some of
> them are more built out than others. The area that we will be building
> out much more robustly is the school space to very specifically answer
> that question. We have hypothecated, since you want to offer that lens
> perhaps of imagination, let me hypothecate with you *scenarios where
> in physically constrained environments where practicing physical
> distancing within the school come this fall may be challenged, we can
> conceivably stagger the individual students to come in as cohorts in
> the morning, some in the afternoon*.
> Phil Edholm
> Office 925-264-9420
> Mobile 408-832-5618
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