[Accrs] It happened again

Tue May 29 16:12:33 PDT 2018

In regards to the lights being left on & Locks being zeroed out, I gave a
copy of a booklet to Phil Edholm that was created for new members at
another club. It explains how to activate the lights, cooling system.
schematic of the layout.

We were suffering the same issues. We developed the booklet then tested new
members on these topics. It helped minimize these problems creeping up again

Mike Garrigan

*Michael Garrigan*

On 28 May 2018 at 11:29, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <
accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:

> Message From: Tony Long  tony.long at outlook.com
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> Sounds like we should have a tutorial session on the protocol for opening
> and closing the building and every member that wants to use the club be
> required to learn how to power everything up and off on both sides of the
> aisle.  If you are the last one in the building it is “Your” responsibility
> to ensure the power is off and the building is secured before you drive
> off.   And if there is something powered on across your aisle it’s still
> your responsibility (regardless of scale).   You can always call someone
> and or email someone – doing nothing and saying nothing is not acceptable.
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> If this happens again we will meet to have a vote on improving the process
> and to ensure compliance by installing  video security cameras with remote
> control and cloud storage for easy access.  In additional,  implementing
> AI, Facial Recognition (FR), License Plate readers and Voice Recognition
> will allow us to develop very high tech, state of the art,  security and
> monitoring that doesn’t require much manual effort to know who is coming
> and going.   We can even implement FR for unlocking the door.
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> *From:* Accrs <accrs-bounces at mail.accrs.org> on behalf of Alameda County
> Central Railroad Society <accrs at mail.accrs.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2018 11:01:13 AM
> *To:* accrs at mail.accrs.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Accrs] It happened again
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> Message From: Paula Bursley  pbursley at comcast.net
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> Phil, when we got there yesterday after you had been there in the morning,
> everything was turned off. The only thing I noticed were the trees on the
> ledge at the port, and I think we all realize we shouldn’t set things there
> and have discussed that enough for now.
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> We have come to the club many times when things were left on. Nicholas and
> I will put together a simple shut down list for the HO side. Not sure if O
> has or needs anything like that.
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> I think your assessment of the reasoning behind zeroing out the door lock
> is correct Phil. It is a way to force all four numbers to be changed when
> locking the door.
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> Paula
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 28, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <
> accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
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> > Message From: Phil Edholm  pedholm at pkeconsulting.com
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> > I was at the club until from 9-12 AM yesterday and came back about 3 or
> so (apologies to the HO folks for the trees in the ledge 🙄). When I left
> at noon, I am 99% sure the lights were off, though I knew I would be back
> in an hour or two so there is a small probability I left them on. I may
> have just spun all 4 tumblers because I was coming back later. When I got
> back there were folks there on the HO side  if it was me who left the
> lights on then the HO layout had been on a while as I definitely did not
> turn it on (working on the O scenery).  That means it was left on on
> Saturday or Friday. Quite frankly, as I was not using the HO layout I never
> thought of seeing if it was on. A suggestion for both sides that we wire a
> light on the aisle by the north door that is visible and is wired off the
> mains power to each layout so it is easy to see if it is left on. After the
> fair discussion.
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> > BTW. I have used the four tumbler padlocks before in other security
> situations and have never been pedantic about setting the tumblers to a
> “safe” code. It is critical to spin all four tumblers to assure maximum
> divergence from the open code (leaving it to a number where only one
> tumbler was moved one number is foolish). The only reason to set it to 0000
> is to assure it is always randomized by us. I agree it is a good idea as it
> forces the randomization.
> >
> > Phil Edholm
> > PKE Consulting
> > @PEdholm
> > Office 9252649420
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> >
> >> On May 26, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Alameda County Central Railroad Society <
> accrs at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Message From: Larry  colorado at onemain.com
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> >> Dean,
> >> I haven't been to the club in a couple of weeks so it wasn't me but I
> have an opinion on this. This is negligent and could lead to  a fire or
> other problem not to mention higher utility bills.
> >>
> >> It would be good to teach some of us O scalers how to shut down the HO
> side and visa versa.  If I were the
> >> last one at the club I would have no idea where the switches were.
> The HO people need to know how to
> >> shut down the O scale side just in case it is left on as well.
> >>
> >> As for the locks, I never knew that you wanted  them set to zero.  I
> always spin them randomly to make sure that the combination
> >> is not showing, that is the main thing.
> >>
> >> By the way the back lock is bad.  The wheels don't click which makes it
> very hard to unlock or to stay on zero once locked.
> >>
> >> Larry Brickell
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> >> Alameda County Central Railroad Society wrote:
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> >>> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This may not apply to the O-Scale group, but I think we all need to be
> aware.
> >>>
> >>> I arrived yesterday at our building at 2:00pm.  The lock wasn't set to
> all "zeros" but had properly been put in place.
> >>>
> >>> Both sets of club florescent lights were on.   I walked over to the HO
> control panel, pulled out the laptop drawer and low and behold, it was warm
> and running.
> >>>
> >>> Someone, most likely on the HO side, is not following proper procedure
> to turn off the equipment and lights.  Whoever it is needs to stop.  This
> has happened too often.   If it doesn't stop, I suggest that person loose
> club privileges.
> >>>
> >>> Just my take.   Stuff could have been on for only a short time, or for
> several days.   We got to take care of the club.   It isn't just a place
> for you to run your train and not follow the rules.
> >>>
> >>> Dean
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