<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5061" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5060">The logical place for installation is block 37 which would cover ALL trains and location of speaker near the dispatch panel would allow for volume control by the dispatcher as noise level changes throughout the day during the fair. If we like the unit and want to buy a second in the future the other single line location could be the inter-urban by the port. That could encourage more Inter-urban line use, but a speaker right at the entrance could cause a bottleneck. Would it be possible (probably not but I'll throw it out to the electrical people to pass judgement) to wire a second detector to the same speaker if we put it on the Inter-urban near Oildale?</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5187" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5195" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5194">I don't think buying male and female voices and changing the chip is a good idea. Sounds like a guarantee of breaking something. I would defer the female voice (and extra $30 cost) until the second unit.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5282" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5284" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5283">While the club name is ACCRS, the actual railroad is Sierra Western and the club locomotives are decaled that way so that should probably be the railroad identifier in the voice. Although if I recall the specs it allowed enough custom words that we could do "Alameda County Central Railroad (not custom - it is in the canned words) Society" as the identifier. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5382" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5384" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5383">Just my thoughts, since I will not be at the meeting next week.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5130"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5129"><span>Dennis</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5104"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5109" style="display: block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5108" style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5107" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5106" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5105" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5128"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org" <accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 1, 2017 3:01 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5349"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5348" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Accrs-ho] Train Boss - The Talking Train Defect Detector System<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5112"><br><div id="yiv8681855915"><style type="text/css">#yiv8681855915 #yiv8681855915 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv8681855915 </style><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5111" dir="ltr"> <div id="yiv8681855915divtagdefaultwrapper" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont,; font-size: 12pt;" dir="ltr"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5205">Follow-up on Boulder Creek Train Talking Train Defect Detector product. Think about this more -several decisions to make concerning install/config. </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5202">See <a class="yiv8681855915OWAAutoLink" id="yiv8681855915LPlnk788794" href="http://www.bouldercreekengineering.com/trainboss.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"> http://www.bouldercreekengineering.com/trainboss.php</a> and <a class="yiv8681855915OWAAutoLink" id="yiv8681855915LPlnk844304" href="http://www.bouldercreekengineering.com/docs/tb-23_product_manual.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.bouldercreekengineering.com/docs/tb-23_product_manual.pdf</a> for more details.</div> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5110"><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5204"><span><u>Boulder Creek Parts and Prices $189.95</u></span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5127"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5126">Model No. TB-23M $149.95 (Includes two Axle Sensors, report push-button switch, male voice)</span><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5125"><span><br clear="none"> </span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5124"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5347"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5346">Item No. TB-VC22F Female Voice Chip $30.00</span><br clear="none"> </span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5113"><span><br clear="none"> </span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5118"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5286"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5285">Item TB-CWP Custom Word or Phrase $10.00</span><br clear="none"> </span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5114"><span><span><br clear="none"> </span></span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5117"><span><span><br clear="none"> </span></span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5123"><span><span><u>Additional Parts Required (Estimated Cost $39.00)</u></span></span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5296">Power Supply: DC (9-12 V) or AC (7-9 V), 250 mA required * </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5295"><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5294">8-Ohm speaker or powered speakers required **</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5293"><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5298">* <span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5297" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont,;">A power supply for laptop or electronics device with these ratings can used) Estimated Cost $15.00</span></div> <div>** Old PC external powered speakers can work with this. Estimated Cost $24.00<br clear="none"> </div> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If anyone has old PC parts (power supply, external powered speakers) willing to donate this would be helpful.</span><br clear="none"> </div> <div><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont,;"><br clear="none"> </span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5401"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont,;"><br clear="none"> </span></div> <div><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont,;"><u>Decisions To Make</u></span></div> <div>1.) Purchase 1 or 2 TB-23 (one for freight main line and one for passenger main line)</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5300">2.) TB-23 Installation location, power source, wiring, on/off switch requirements or not<br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5299">3.) Single or Double detector option (Single is the default config - provides <span> axle counts, train speed, and train length; Double does not<span> report speed or train length)</span></span></div> <div><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont,;">4.) Speaker Placement, volume control</span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5402">5.) Track locations to install Axle Sensors on; requires cutting out a section of ties and roadbed to insert sensor board underneath Single detector option requires two locations on same mainline <span>within 235 scale feet of each other.</span> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5307">6.) Custom word or phrase to program</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5308">7.) Install/Not Install push-button report switch</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5315"><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5314"><u>Suggestions</u></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5313">Purchasing - purchase one TB-23 for freight main line and if all goes well purchase a second one for passenger main line</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5312"><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5311">Install with Standard/Default "Single" detector option - more like the real thing.</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5310"><u><br clear="none"> </u></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5309">TB-23 Install Location - Port area near aisle. There is available surge protector to plug power supplies into, there is a mounting board installed for adding devices with available space. Easy to install sensor wire drops to the TB-23</div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <div>Speaker Location - Could be installed into the aisle fascia or position under the layout pointing into a specific direction. Easy access to the TB-23.</div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5345">Volume Control - Powered speakers with an available volume control switch would be the easiest of the two options. Using direct attach 8 ohm speaker, volume is controlled only on the TB-23 board. If the volume control knob switch can be hacked, ie, removed from speaker housing it could be mounted on tabletop area - perhaps under a "lift-up" building or other structure to concern the knob.</div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5322">Male/Female Voice - Purchase 1 TB-23 Male and the extra Female voice chip - can switch them every two months; if a second TB-23 is purchased, request no chip, save $30.00 and use the extra one for that.</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5327"><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5328">Custom Word - ACCRS</div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5339">Push-Button Report Switch - this repeats the last report, could be useful for testing purposes and or an amusement to visitors if installed for visitor access, but could abused and become annoying. Or, perhaps wire this into the control panel for operator <span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont,;">amusement.</span></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5340"><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5341"><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5342">//eom</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5343"><br clear="none"> </div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496416210762_5344"> </div> <div><span><span><br clear="none"> </span></span></div> <div><span><span><br clear="none"> </span></span></div> <div><span><span><br clear="none"> </span></span></div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <div><br clear="none"> </div> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <div> <hr tabindex="-1" style="width: 98%; display: inline-block;"> <div id="yiv8681855915x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> Accrs-ho <accrs-ho-bounces@mail.accrs.org> on behalf of ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org><br clear="none"> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:10 AM<br clear="none"> <b>To:</b> List, ACCRS<br clear="none"> <b>Subject:</b> [Accrs-ho] HO Scale Meeting Minutes May 2017</font> <div class="yiv8681855915yqt3133313152" id="yiv8681855915yqtfd64030"><div> </div> </div></div><div class="yiv8681855915yqt3133313152" id="yiv8681855915yqtfd08089"> </div></div><div class="yiv8681855915yqt3133313152" id="yiv8681855915yqtfd34363"> <font size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font><div class="yiv8681855915PlainText">Message From: UPWPFan upwpfan@comcast.net<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> </div> </div></div><div class="yiv8681855915yqt3133313152" id="yiv8681855915yqtfd54883"> </div></div><div class="yiv8681855915yqt3133313152" id="yiv8681855915yqtfd40288"> </div></div></div>Message From: Tony Long <a href="mailto:tony.long@outlook.com" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tony.long@outlook.com">tony.long@outlook.com</a><div class="yqt3133313152" id="yqtfd23249"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yqt3133313152" id="yqtfd28029">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Accrs-ho mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org">Accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="https://mail.accrs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/accrs-ho" target="_blank" shape="rect">https://mail.accrs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/accrs-ho</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>