From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Fri Feb  2 11:50:25 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2018 11:50:25 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Operating rules
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members,

Up for possible discussion this evening.

Dean
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Sat Feb  3 16:27:48 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 16:27:48 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Broken Sierra Western diesel
Message-ID: <mailman.1138.1517704056.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>

Members,

Last night I looked upstairs and found the Sierra Western GP40 #4040 in 
the problem/repair box.  This is one of the locos that reside in the 
club DCC metal cabinet under the layout at the end of the passenger 
yard. *I would like to know who put it up there and what created the 
problem.*

As near as I can tell, it originally was not a DCC problem.  Each truck 
has a small upward facing projection that fits in the frame to keep the 
truck centered in the locomotive frame.   The projection on the rear 
truck was broken off.  It is difficult to see how that could happen as 
is not something you would normally expect to occur.   It tells me 
someone dropped the loco (most probable) or in using  the loco it fell 
of the track and tumbled a long distance to the floor or something like 
that.  Mishandlng while trying to put the truck on the track could have 
also caused the breakage.

There was no note on the loco detailing the problem.   Of course, when 
the truck no longer can center on the frame, the drive shaft pushes out 
of the fly wheel and the motor just spins.

When you damage a loco, you are supposed to report it and make a note of 
the problem and what happened.   Not just quietly stick it in the repair 
box.  In most cases the damage most likely is accidental, but it still 
needs to be reported.

Dean
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Sat Feb  3 20:09:08 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 04:09:08 +0000
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Broken Sierra Western diesel
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you see Dean.

any member joins the club bring its own stuff. they don't care and know  how to take care

 of the club Equipment any way. in addition I found out yesterday as you and I had been running around under the table, when I had to crawl all the way to the Port. to get my cars.

well that's when I noticed the pier railing by the paper house is loose

I think the fellows that operate at the port {young Guy's} mostly should be more carful when reaching over the Tables in the port area. or any where else on the layout.
well club loco  DCC or any

should be always locked up. have them bring there own  period
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Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net

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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Sun Feb  4 14:27:31 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 14:27:31 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Operating rules
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Pleas look the rules over.  If you want to propose a change to the proposed
rules pleas let Dean know.  The goal is to get these rapped up so we can
potentially vote them in.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:50 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
wrote:

> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
>
>
> members,
>
> Up for possible discussion this evening.
>
> Dean
>
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Sun Feb  4 14:40:15 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 22:40:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Operating rules
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Hello Andy K Train Master 
My two cents about having a cleaning car in a consist is a matter I don't want to have casted in stone in our operating rules
I enjoy my freight consists as they are matched with my chosen engines to pull
my vote is against cleaning cars during open house operations for example the good guys shows and yes the fair schedule weeks in june and july 
so I am opposed to making it mandatory to have any cleaning car on your train    thank you gary barbano  

    On Sunday, February 4, 2018 2:27 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
 

 Pleas look the rules over.  If you want to propose a change to the proposed rules pleas let Dean know.  The goal is to get these rapped up so we can potentially vote them in.
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:50 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:

Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net


members,

Up for possible discussion this evening.

Dean

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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Sun Feb  4 14:53:34 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 14:53:34 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Operating rules
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Regarding the cleaning cars...I’ve noticed that if we don’t have at least one on the layout at all times when running, the track gets really dirty really quick and then trains don’t want to run right and we have to do what I had to do during the fair and Goodguys more than twice...I had to run a short track cleaning train during the event. And I don’t think that’s what visitors like to see. Just my opinion.

 - Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 2:40 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Gary Barbano  gary_barbano at yahoo.com
> 
> Hello Andy K Train Master
> 
> My two cents about having a cleaning car in a consist is a matter I don't want to have casted in stone in our operating rules
> 
> I enjoy my freight consists as they are matched with my chosen engines to pull
> 
> my vote is against cleaning cars during open house operations for example the good guys shows and yes the fair schedule weeks in june and july
> 
> so I am opposed to making it mandatory to have any cleaning car on your train    thank you gary barbano
> 
> 
> On Sunday, February 4, 2018 2:27 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pleas look the rules over.  If you want to propose a change to the proposed rules pleas let Dean know.  The goal is to get these rapped up so we can potentially vote them in.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:50 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> 
> 
> members,
> 
> Up for possible discussion this evening.
> 
> Dean
> 
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> 
> -- 
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> 
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Thu Feb  8 13:45:28 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 13:45:28 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] SW GP40 repair update
Message-ID: <mailman.1175.1518126321.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>

Members,

Atlas had a replacement part for the broken truck.   It arrived today.   
It appeared to be a simple matter of swapping the side frames of the 
broken silver truck for the black frames on the new truck.

I started the process of replacement.   Got the first side switched and 
checked the fit of the old silver side frame on the new truck.   How 
come one end feels loose.   Remove the side frame (silver one) and check 
against the black one that came with the new truck.   Whow, the silver 
one is missing a piece that secures it to the truck body (also brake 
shoe that is attched).  There should be three pins and there are only 
two.   Very strange.  If this piece is broken out of the silver truck 
(it is),  the truck took some kind of an impact that broke this piece 
off and forced the breakage in the other part.

VERY Highly unusual.  Must be because of mishandling as I can't see how 
else it happened.  ANY ONE KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED!!!!

Dean

From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Thu Feb  8 16:59:13 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 16:59:13 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
Message-ID: <mailman.1176.1518137954.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>

Members,

Here is an updated version of the suggested rules for operation on the 
club HO layout.   Suggestions were made and added to Rule 6, 7, and 8.   
Rule 11.0 is entirely new in this document.   Please review and 
comment.    Hopefull we can get this in place by voting on them at the 
March Business Meeting.

If we find additions or modifications are needed at a later date, we can 
vote to change the rules.  However we do need to get rules in place.

Dean
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Thu Feb  8 17:21:57 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 17:21:57 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
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References: <mailman.1176.1518137954.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>
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I noticed Rule 7 sort of contradicts itself regarding non-members. The first part says non-members should not run trains, period. Then the second part says non-members can run their own equipment under supervision of a member or junior member (which frankly I am in support of). So which is it?

 - Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:59 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> 
> Members,
> 
> Here is an updated version of the suggested rules for operation on the club HO layout.   Suggestions were made and added to Rule 6, 7, and 8.   Rule 11.0 is entirely new in this document.   Please review and comment.    Hopefull we can get this in place by voting on them at the March Business Meeting.
> 
> If we find additions or modifications are needed at a later date, we can vote to change the rules.  However we do need to get rules in place.
> 
> Dean
> <Conceptual HO Rules and Guidelines 11-8-2017.pdf>
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Thu Feb  8 21:20:49 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 21:20:49 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Genstsar
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Jamie,

Perhaps it needs to be worded differently.   Non-members shouldn't be 
allowed to run trains.   This was to mean the person that drops in to 
see the layout, etc.   In an attempt to cover the children of a member 
that is not old enough to be a Jr. Member, the other paragraph was 
added.  It would be a shame if a member brought their child down and the 
child couldn't run the train while dad or mom sat with them and 
supervised and made sure their were no problems.   The parent would have 
to be a member and be with their child.  Any suggestions on wording???

Dean


On 2/8/2018 5:26 PM, Jamie West wrote:
> Hi Dean.
> I am not too familiar with what containers ran on the Santa Fe in the 90s, but I think I have occasionally seen Genstar containers on today’s trains.
>
>   - Jamie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>    
>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Dean&  Margaret Lewis<lewis2 at earthlink.net>  wrote:
>>
>> Jamie,
>>
>> Have you seen Genstar containers on BHSF (aka Santa Fe).   I have seen a couple of the model containers that have a UP shield on them.  I have see others that just say Genstar.   I am wondering if they ran on Santa Fe in the mid 90's.
>>
>> Dean
>>      
>
>    


From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Thu Feb  8 21:34:02 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 21:34:02 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1180.1518139323.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>
References: <mailman.1176.1518137954.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>
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Message-ID: <mailman.1183.1518154434.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>

Jamie,

Perhaps it needs to be worded differently.   Non-members shouldn't be 
allowed to run trains.   This was to mean the person that drops in to 
see the layout, etc.   In an attempt to cover the children of a member 
that is not old enough to be a Jr. Member, the other paragraph was 
added.  It would be a shame if a member brought their child down and the 
child couldn't run the train while dad or mom sat with them and 
supervised and made sure their were no problems.   The parent would have 
to be a member and be with their child.  Any suggestions on wording???

Dean




On 2/8/2018 5:21 PM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
>
> I noticed Rule 7 sort of contradicts itself regarding non-members. The first part says non-members should not run trains, period. Then the second part says non-members can run their own equipment under supervision of a member or junior member (which frankly I am in support of). So which is it?
>
>   - Jamie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>    
>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:59 PM, ACCRS HO Scale<accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>  wrote:
>>
>> Message From: Dean&  Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
>>
>> Members,
>>
>> Here is an updated version of the suggested rules for operation on the club HO layout.   Suggestions were made and added to Rule 6, 7, and 8.   Rule 11.0 is entirely new in this document.   Please review and comment.    Hopefull we can get this in place by voting on them at the March Business Meeting.
>>
>> If we find additions or modifications are needed at a later date, we can vote to change the rules.  However we do need to get rules in place.
>>
>> Dean
>> <Conceptual HO Rules and Guidelines 11-8-2017.pdf>
>> _______________________________________________
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Thu Feb  8 22:09:10 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 22:09:10 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1183.1518154434.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>
References: <mailman.1176.1518137954.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>
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Oh gotcha. Maybe say that the only exception to non-members running would be children of current club members who are too young to be a junior member or something like that.

I would also like to propose that the other exception could be members of other clubs, like what the Crockett club does. I’ve been down there to join in their ops sessions a few times and was even down there for their New Years Eve running and was thinking we could do the same thing.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 9:34 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> Perhaps it needs to be worded differently.   Non-members shouldn't be allowed to run trains.   This was to mean the person that drops in to see the layout, etc.   In an attempt to cover the children of a member that is not old enough to be a Jr. Member, the other paragraph was added.  It would be a shame if a member brought their child down and the child couldn't run the train while dad or mom sat with them and supervised and made sure their were no problems.   The parent would have to be a member and be with their child.  Any suggestions on wording???
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/8/2018 5:21 PM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
>> 
>> I noticed Rule 7 sort of contradicts itself regarding non-members. The first part says non-members should not run trains, period. Then the second part says non-members can run their own equipment under supervision of a member or junior member (which frankly I am in support of). So which is it?
>> 
>>  - Jamie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>   
>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:59 PM, ACCRS HO Scale<accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Message From: Dean&  Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
>>> 
>>> Members,
>>> 
>>> Here is an updated version of the suggested rules for operation on the club HO layout.   Suggestions were made and added to Rule 6, 7, and 8.   Rule 11.0 is entirely new in this document.   Please review and comment.    Hopefull we can get this in place by voting on them at the March Business Meeting.
>>> 
>>> If we find additions or modifications are needed at a later date, we can vote to change the rules.  However we do need to get rules in place.
>>> 
>>> Dean
>>> <Conceptual HO Rules and Guidelines 11-8-2017.pdf>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Accrs-ho mailing list
>>> Accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org
>>> https://mail.accrs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/accrs-ho
>>>     
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Fri Feb  9 07:08:42 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 15:08:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1184.1518156555.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>
References: <mailman.1176.1518137954.1652.accrs-ho@mail.accrs.org>
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Jamie, Dean,
Please also consider this scenario:A friend of a member or Jr. member was told about the club. They are not family and don't belong to any other club. The friend has an interested in trains (strong enough to be interested to come out on a Friday night and spend time at our club). A member or Jr. member now shows up at our club wis this friend.How could we manage for this new potential member to experience the thrill of driving a train as part of sharing our passion?Jamie, could your below be extended to cover potential future members? What are your thoughts?
Jorg
    On Thursday, February 8, 2018, 11:09:21 PM MST, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:  
 
 Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com

Oh gotcha. Maybe say that the only exception to non-members running would be children of current club members who are too young to be a junior member or something like that.

I would also like to propose that the other exception could be members of other clubs, like what the Crockett club does. I’ve been down there to join in their ops sessions a few times and was even down there for their New Years Eve running and was thinking we could do the same thing.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 9:34 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> Perhaps it needs to be worded differently.  Non-members shouldn't be allowed to run trains.  This was to mean the person that drops in to see the layout, etc.  In an attempt to cover the children of a member that is not old enough to be a Jr. Member, the other paragraph was added.  It would be a shame if a member brought their child down and the child couldn't run the train while dad or mom sat with them and supervised and made sure their were no problems.  The parent would have to be a member and be with their child.  Any suggestions on wording???
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/8/2018 5:21 PM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
>> 
>> I noticed Rule 7 sort of contradicts itself regarding non-members. The first part says non-members should not run trains, period. Then the second part says non-members can run their own equipment under supervision of a member or junior member (which frankly I am in support of). So which is it?
>> 
>>  - Jamie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>  
>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:59 PM, ACCRS HO Scale<accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Message From: Dean&  Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
>>> 
>>> Members,
>>> 
>>> Here is an updated version of the suggested rules for operation on the club HO layout.  Suggestions were made and added to Rule 6, 7, and 8.  Rule 11.0 is entirely new in this document.  Please review and comment.    Hopefull we can get this in place by voting on them at the March Business Meeting.
>>> 
>>> If we find additions or modifications are needed at a later date, we can vote to change the rules.  However we do need to get rules in place.
>>> 
>>> Dean
>>> <Conceptual HO Rules and Guidelines 11-8-2017.pdf>
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Non-members cannot run trains unless they are monitored by members, or the non-member is old enough to be a junior member being monitored by a member or junior member.

-Chad

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 9:20 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> Perhaps it needs to be worded differently.   Non-members shouldn't be allowed to run trains.   This was to mean the person that drops in to see the layout, etc.   In an attempt to cover the children of a member that is not old enough to be a Jr. Member, the other paragraph was added.  It would be a shame if a member brought their child down and the child couldn't run the train while dad or mom sat with them and supervised and made sure their were no problems.   The parent would have to be a member and be with their child.  Any suggestions on wording???
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
>> On 2/8/2018 5:26 PM, Jamie West wrote:
>> Hi Dean.
>> I am not too familiar with what containers ran on the Santa Fe in the 90s, but I think I have occasionally seen Genstar containers on today’s trains.
>> 
>>  - Jamie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>   
>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Dean&  Margaret Lewis<lewis2 at earthlink.net>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jamie,
>>> 
>>> Have you seen Genstar containers on BHSF (aka Santa Fe).   I have seen a couple of the model containers that have a UP shield on them.  I have see others that just say Genstar.   I am wondering if they ran on Santa Fe in the mid 90's.
>>> 
>>> Dean
>>>     
>> 
>>   
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Fri Feb  9 07:56:59 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 07:56:59 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
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Jorg, Jamie

This is a difficult item to write to cover all the different 
situations.  I could take a train to Crockett and run it even though I 
have never been there.  Most likely it is because "I think I have enough 
experience and they accept that".  It seems reasonable that their 
members might be able to do the same on our layout.  Problems in the 
past have been with the Jr. members more so than adults.  Jr. members 
are more apt to want to handle the club equipment, more apt to damage it 
and more apt to create problems because they don't know much.   How do 
we draw a line regarding use of club equipment and layout to protect the 
club and its equipment.  Not to say that adults couldn't create a 
problem, as they might as well.

If we have a problem, we need some rule that allows us to say "stop, you 
are not allowed to do that" or something like that.   example:  Chad 
brings a friend down a pretty soon he is all over the layout.   That 
shouldn't happen.   It is more likely with younger people that older 
adults, but again, it could happen there too.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.   How do you write a rule????  It 
is like an accepted "behavior" rule that we need to get too.

Dean

On 2/9/2018 7:08 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
> Message From: Kelly Linke  kellylinke at yahoo.com
>
>    
>
>
> Jamie, Dean,
>
> Please also consider this scenario:
> A friend of a member or Jr. member was told about the club. They are 
> not family and don't belong to any other club. The friend has an 
> interested in trains (strong enough to be interested to come out on a 
> Friday night and spend time at our club).
> A member or Jr. member now shows up at our club wis this friend.
> How could we manage for this new potential member to experience the 
> thrill of driving a train as part of sharing our passion?
> Jamie, could your below be extended to cover potential future members?
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Jorg
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2018, 11:09:21 PM MST, ACCRS HO Scale 
> <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Message From: Jamie West bayarearailfan at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bayarearailfan at gmail.com>
>
> Oh gotcha. Maybe say that the only exception to non-members running 
> would be children of current club members who are too young to be a 
> junior member or something like that.
>
> I would also like to propose that the other exception could be members 
> of other clubs, like what the Crockett club does. I’ve been down there 
> to join in their ops sessions a few times and was even down there for 
> their New Years Eve running and was thinking we could do the same thing.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 8, 2018, at 9:34 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org 
> <mailto:accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis lewis2 at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:lewis2 at earthlink.net>
> >
> > Jamie,
> >
> > Perhaps it needs to be worded differently.  Non-members shouldn't be 
> allowed to run trains.  This was to mean the person that drops in to 
> see the layout, etc.  In an attempt to cover the children of a member 
> that is not old enough to be a Jr. Member, the other paragraph was 
> added.  It would be a shame if a member brought their child down and 
> the child couldn't run the train while dad or mom sat with them and 
> supervised and made sure their were no problems.  The parent would 
> have to be a member and be with their child.  Any suggestions on 
> wording???
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 2/8/2018 5:21 PM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
> >> Message From: Jamie West bayarearailfan at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bayarearailfan at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> I noticed Rule 7 sort of contradicts itself regarding non-members. 
> The first part says non-members should not run trains, period. Then 
> the second part says non-members can run their own equipment under 
> supervision of a member or junior member (which frankly I am in 
> support of). So which is it?
> >>
> >>  - Jamie
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:59 PM, ACCRS HO Scale<accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org 
> <mailto:accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Message From: Dean&  Margaret Lewis lewis2 at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:lewis2 at earthlink.net>
> >>>
> >>> Members,
> >>>
> >>> Here is an updated version of the suggested rules for operation on 
> the club HO layout.  Suggestions were made and added to Rule 6, 7, and 
> 8.  Rule 11.0 is entirely new in this document.  Please review and 
> comment.    Hopefull we can get this in place by voting on them at the 
> March Business Meeting.
> >>>
> >>> If we find additions or modifications are needed at a later date, 
> we can vote to change the rules.  However we do need to get rules in 
> place.
> >>>
> >>> Dean
> >>> <Conceptual HO Rules and Guidelines 11-8-2017.pdf>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Accrs-ho mailing list
> >>> Accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org <mailto:Accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Fri Feb  9 08:12:42 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 08:12:42 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
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How about non-members can only run with permission from a club officer, preferably the train master. 

Marc

> On Feb 9, 2018, at 7:56 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> 
> Jorg, Jamie
> 
> This is a difficult item to write to cover all the different situations.  I could take a train to Crockett and run it even though I have never been there.  Most likely it is because "I think I have enough experience and they accept that".  It seems reasonable that their members might be able to do the same on our layout.  Problems in the past have been with the Jr. members more so than adults.  Jr. members are more apt to want to handle the club equipment, more apt to damage it and more apt to create problems because they don't know much.   How do we draw a line regarding use of club equipment and layout to protect the club and its equipment.  Not to say that adults couldn't create a problem, as they might as well.
> 
> If we have a problem, we need some rule that allows us to say "stop, you are not allowed to do that" or something like that.   example:  Chad brings a friend down a pretty soon he is all over the layout.   That shouldn't happen.   It is more likely with younger people that older adults, but again, it could happen there too.
> 
> Damned if you do, damned if you don't.   How do you write a rule????  It is like an accepted "behavior" rule that we need to get too.
> 
> Dean
> 
>> On 2/9/2018 7:08 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>> Message From: Kelly Linke  kellylinke at yahoo.com
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> Jamie, Dean,
>> 
>> Please also consider this scenario:
>> A friend of a member or Jr. member was told about the club. They are not family and don't belong to any other club. The friend has an interested in trains (strong enough to be interested to come out on a Friday night and spend time at our club). 
>> A member or Jr. member now shows up at our club wis this friend.
>> How could we manage for this new potential member to experience the thrill of driving a train as part of sharing our passion?
>> Jamie, could your below be extended to cover potential future members?
>>  
>> What are your thoughts?
>> 
>> Jorg
>> 
>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018, 11:09:21 PM MST, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
>> 
>> Oh gotcha. Maybe say that the only exception to non-members running would be children of current club members who are too young to be a junior member or something like that.
>> 
>> I would also like to propose that the other exception could be members of other clubs, like what the Crockett club does. I’ve been down there to join in their ops sessions a few times and was even down there for their New Years Eve running and was thinking we could do the same thing.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Feb 8, 2018, at 9:34 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
>> > 
>> > Jamie,
>> > 
>> > Perhaps it needs to be worded differently.  Non-members shouldn't be allowed to run trains.  This was to mean the person that drops in to see the layout, etc.  In an attempt to cover the children of a member that is not old enough to be a Jr. Member, the other paragraph was added.  It would be a shame if a member brought their child down and the child couldn't run the train while dad or mom sat with them and supervised and made sure their were no problems.  The parent would have to be a member and be with their child.  Any suggestions on wording???
>> > 
>> > Dean
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On 2/8/2018 5:21 PM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>> >> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
>> >> 
>> >> I noticed Rule 7 sort of contradicts itself regarding non-members. The first part says non-members should not run trains, period. Then the second part says non-members can run their own equipment under supervision of a member or junior member (which frankly I am in support of). So which is it?
>> >> 
>> >>  - Jamie
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >>  
>> >>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:59 PM, ACCRS HO Scale<accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>  wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Message From: Dean&  Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
>> >>> 
>> >>> Members,
>> >>> 
>> >>> Here is an updated version of the suggested rules for operation on the club HO layout.  Suggestions were made and added to Rule 6, 7, and 8.  Rule 11.0 is entirely new in this document.  Please review and comment.    Hopefull we can get this in place by voting on them at the March Business Meeting.
>> >>> 
>> >>> If we find additions or modifications are needed at a later date, we can vote to change the rules.  However we do need to get rules in place.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Dean
>> >>> <Conceptual HO Rules and Guidelines 11-8-2017.pdf>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Accrs-ho mailing list
>> >>> Accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org
>> >>> https://mail.accrs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/accrs-ho
>> 
>> >>>    
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Fri Feb  9 08:36:16 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 08:36:16 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Non Member rules for operation of equipment
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Perhaps the rule should read something like the following:

Non-members cannot run trains unless they are monitored by a _regular_ 
member. If the non-member is in the junior member category, they may be 
monitored by a _regular_ member or _qualified_ junior member. 
Non-members cannot run the dispatch panel

Members from other clubs, that visit and have brought their own 
equipment, may be allowed to run the equipment, if in the opinion of a 
club _regular _member it meets the club standards. If the visitor is not 
a regular member of another club, then their equipment must be evaluated 
by a _regular_ member before it is allowed on the layout. _Qualified_ 
junior members must get approval from a _regular_ member to allow junior 
member visitors to put equipment on the layout. It will be evaluated for 
club standards.


Dean




On 2/9/2018 7:34 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
> Non-members cannot run trains unless they are monitored by members, or the non-member is old enough to be a junior member being monitored by a member or junior member.
>
> -Chad
>
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Fri Feb  9 08:59:45 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 08:59:45 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
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Marc,

How about this

Non-members can only run with permission from a club officer, preferably 
the train master. Non-members cannot run trains unless they are 
monitored by a _regular_ member.  If the non-member is in the junior 
member category, they may be monitored by a _regular_ member or 
_qualified_ junior member.  Non-members cannot run the dispatch panel

Visiting members, from other clubs, may be allowed to run their 
equipment, if in the opinion a club officer, preferably the train 
master, it meets the club standards.

Other visitors must have their equipment _fully evaluated_ by a club 
officer, preferably the train master, prior to placing it on the layout.





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> How about non-members can only run with permission from a club 
> officer, preferably the train master. 

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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Fri Feb  9 09:54:47 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 09:54:47 -0800
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Jorg,

I think that could be another exception. Like having a Facebook page, It would be a great (and free) way to attract potential new members. In fact, that could be directly linked to having a Facebook page. If someone contacts us that way and says they are interested in becoming a member and they have their own trains that meet our standards, we can then invite them to one of our ops sessions to let them experience running on our layout under supervision of a member (provided we have a dispatcher at the panel as well). It would all be great PR for the club and a great way to attract new members.

 - Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 9, 2018, at 7:08 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Kelly Linke  kellylinke at yahoo.com
> 
> Jamie, Dean,
> 
> Please also consider this scenario:
> A friend of a member or Jr. member was told about the club. They are not family and don't belong to any other club. The friend has an interested in trains (strong enough to be interested to come out on a Friday night and spend time at our club). 
> A member or Jr. member now shows up at our club wis this friend.
> How could we manage for this new potential member to experience the thrill of driving a train as part of sharing our passion?
> Jamie, could your below be extended to cover potential future members?
>  
> What are your thoughts?
> 
> Jorg
> 
> On Thursday, February 8, 2018, 11:09:21 PM MST, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
> 
> Oh gotcha. Maybe say that the only exception to non-members running would be children of current club members who are too young to be a junior member or something like that.
> 
> I would also like to propose that the other exception could be members of other clubs, like what the Crockett club does. I’ve been down there to join in their ops sessions a few times and was even down there for their New Years Eve running and was thinking we could do the same thing.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 8, 2018, at 9:34 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> > 
> > Jamie,
> > 
> > Perhaps it needs to be worded differently.  Non-members shouldn't be allowed to run trains.  This was to mean the person that drops in to see the layout, etc.  In an attempt to cover the children of a member that is not old enough to be a Jr. Member, the other paragraph was added.  It would be a shame if a member brought their child down and the child couldn't run the train while dad or mom sat with them and supervised and made sure their were no problems.  The parent would have to be a member and be with their child.  Any suggestions on wording???
> > 
> > Dean
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 2/8/2018 5:21 PM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
> >> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
> >> 
> >> I noticed Rule 7 sort of contradicts itself regarding non-members. The first part says non-members should not run trains, period. Then the second part says non-members can run their own equipment under supervision of a member or junior member (which frankly I am in support of). So which is it?
> >> 
> >>  - Jamie
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>  
> >>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:59 PM, ACCRS HO Scale<accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Message From: Dean&  Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> >>> 
> >>> Members,
> >>> 
> >>> Here is an updated version of the suggested rules for operation on the club HO layout.  Suggestions were made and added to Rule 6, 7, and 8.  Rule 11.0 is entirely new in this document.  Please review and comment.    Hopefull we can get this in place by voting on them at the March Business Meeting.
> >>> 
> >>> If we find additions or modifications are needed at a later date, we can vote to change the rules.  However we do need to get rules in place.
> >>> 
> >>> Dean
> >>> <Conceptual HO Rules and Guidelines 11-8-2017.pdf>
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From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 10:01:18 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation
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Dean, I agree with that. Example...I have a couple friends coming down tonight that are members of the Crockett club that have their own equipment (and I know it meets our standards as I’ve seen it run at their club). So if I get permission from an officer to let them run, it would be more exciting for them instead of just having to sit and watch. And it would again be great PR for us.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 9, 2018, at 8:59 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> 
> Marc,
> 
> How about this
> 
> Non-members can only run with permission from a club officer, preferably the train master. Non-members cannot run trains unless they are monitored by a regular member.  If the non-member is in the junior member category, they may be monitored by a regular member or qualified junior member.  Non-members cannot run the dispatch panel
>  
> Visiting members, from other clubs, may be allowed to run their equipment, if in the opinion a club officer, preferably the train master, it meets the club standards. 
>  
>  Other visitors must have their equipment fully evaluated by a club officer, preferably the train master, prior to placing it on the layout. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/9/2018 8:12 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>> How about non-members can only run with permission from a club officer, preferably the train master. 
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From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:12:24 -0800
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See attached.  Rule change for Operatin rule 7.0

Dean


On 2/9/2018 10:01 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
>
>    
>
>
> Dean, I agree with that. Example...I have a couple friends coming down 
> tonight that are members of the Crockett club that have their own 
> equipment (and I know it meets our standards as I’ve seen it run at 
> their club). So if I get permission from an officer to let them run, 
> it would be more exciting for them instead of just having to sit and 
> watch. And it would again be great PR for us.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2018, at 8:59 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org 
> <mailto:accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
>
>> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis lewis2 at earthlink.net 
>> <mailto:lewis2 at earthlink.net>
>>
>> Marc,
>>
>> How about this
>>
>> Non-members can only run with permission from a club officer, 
>> preferably the train master. Non-members cannot run trains unless 
>> they are monitored by a _regular_ member.  If the non-member is in 
>> the junior member category, they may be monitored by a _regular_ 
>> member or _qualified_ junior member.  Non-members cannot run the 
>> dispatch panel
>>
>> Visiting members, from other clubs, may be allowed to run their 
>> equipment, if in the opinion a club officer, preferably the train 
>> master, it meets the club standards.
>>
>> Other visitors must have their equipment _fully evaluated_ by a club 
>> officer, preferably the train master, prior to placing it on the layout.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2018 8:12 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>>> How about non-members can only run with permission from a club 
>>> officer, preferably the train master. 
>>
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From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 11:21:13 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation 02-09-2018
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Looks good in my opinion now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:12 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
> 
> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
> 
> See attached.  Rule change for Operatin rule 7.0
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
>> On 2/9/2018 10:01 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>> Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> Dean, I agree with that. Example...I have a couple friends coming down tonight that are members of the Crockett club that have their own equipment (and I know it meets our standards as I’ve seen it run at their club). So if I get permission from an officer to let them run, it would be more exciting for them instead of just having to sit and watch. And it would again be great PR for us.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2018, at 8:59 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
>>> 
>>> Marc,
>>> 
>>> How about this
>>> 
>>> Non-members can only run with permission from a club officer, preferably the train master. Non-members cannot run trains unless they are monitored by a regular member.  If the non-member is in the junior member category, they may be monitored by a regular member or qualified junior member.  Non-members cannot run the dispatch panel
>>>  
>>> Visiting members, from other clubs, may be allowed to run their equipment, if in the opinion a club officer, preferably the train master, it meets the club standards. 
>>>  
>>>  Other visitors must have their equipment fully evaluated by a club officer, preferably the train master, prior to placing it on the layout. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/9/2018 8:12 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>>>> How about non-members can only run with permission from a club officer, preferably the train master. 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Sat Feb 10 07:41:33 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 15:41:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation 02-09-2018
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Thank you Dean, Jorg
    On Friday, February 9, 2018, 11:21:22 AM PST, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:  
 
 Looks good in my opinion now.

Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:12 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:


Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net



 
See attached.  Rule change for Operatin rule 7.0

Dean


On 2/9/2018 10:01 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
 Message From: Jamie West  bayarearailfan at gmail.com

   
  
 
Dean, I agree with that. Example...I have a couple friends coming downtonight that are members of the Crockett club that have their ownequipment (and I know it meets our standards as I’ve seen it run attheir club). So if I get permission from an officer to let them run, itwould be more exciting for them instead of just having to sit andwatch. And it would again be great PR for us.
 
 Sent from my iPhone 
On Feb 9, 2018, at 8:59 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>wrote:
 
  
 Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
 
  
 
  
Marc,
 
How about this
 
 
Non-memberscanonlyrun with permission from a club officer, preferably the trainmaster. Non-memberscannotrun trains unless they aremonitored by a regular member.  If the non-member is in thejuniormember category, they may be monitored by a regular member or qualifiedjunior member.  Non-members cannot run the dispatch panel 
 
 
 
Visitingmembers,from other clubs, may be allowed torun their equipment, if in the opinion a club officer, preferably thetrainmaster, it meets the club standards. 
 
  
 
 Other visitors musthave their equipment fully evaluated by a club officer,preferably the trainmaster, prior to placing it on the layout.  
 
 
 
 
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How about non-members can only run with permission from aclub officer, preferably the train master. 
 
 
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Sat Feb 10 13:11:34 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 13:11:34 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] Updates to Rules of Operation 02-09-2018
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Thanks Jorg,

This is a group project.  I laid out a base, we just need to make sure 
that everyone is happy with the final version.

Dean

On 2/10/2018 7:41 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
> Message From: Kelly Linke  kellylinke at yahoo.com
>
>    
>
>
> Thank you Dean,
> Jorg
>
> On Friday, February 9, 2018, 11:21:22 AM PST, ACCRS HO Scale 
> <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Looks good in my opinion now.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:12 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org 
> <mailto:accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
>
>> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis lewis2 at earthlink.net 
>> <mailto:lewis2 at earthlink.net>
>>
> See attached.  Rule change for Operatin rule 7.0
>
> Dean
>
>
> On 2/9/2018 10:01 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>> Message From: Jamie Westbayarearailfan at gmail.com  <mailto:bayarearailfan at gmail.com>
>>
>>    
>>
>>
> Dean, I agree with that. Example...I have a couple friends coming down 
> tonight that are members of the Crockett club that have their own 
> equipment (and I know it meets our standards as I’ve seen it run at 
> their club). So if I get permission from an officer to let them run, 
> it would be more exciting for them instead of just having to sit and 
> watch. And it would again be great PR for us.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2018, at 8:59 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org 
> <mailto:accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>> wrote:
>
>> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis lewis2 at earthlink.net 
>> <mailto:lewis2 at earthlink.net>
>>
> Marc,
>
> How about this
>
> Non-members can only run with permission from a club officer, 
> preferably the train master. Non-members cannot run trains unless they 
> are monitored by a _regular_ member.  If the non-member is in the 
> junior member category, they may be monitored by a _regular_ member or 
> _qualified_ junior member.  Non-members cannot run the dispatch panel
>
> Visiting members, from other clubs, may be allowed to run their 
> equipment, if in the opinion a club officer, preferably the train 
> master, it meets the club standards.
>
> Other visitors must have their equipment _fully evaluated_ by a club 
> officer, preferably the train master, prior to placing it on the layout.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2018 8:12 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>> How about non-members can only run with permission from a club 
>> officer, preferably the train master. 
>
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From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:25:51 -0800
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I agree with Dean's version.  Chad was off to a very good start.  :)

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:36 AM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
wrote:

> Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis  lewis2 at earthlink.net
>
>
> Perhaps the rule should read something like the following:
>
> Non-members cannot run trains unless they are monitored by a *regular*
> member.  If the non-member is in the junior member category,  they may be
> monitored by a *regular* member or *qualified* junior member.  Non-members
> cannot run the dispatch panel
>
>
>
> Members from other clubs, that visit and have brought their own equipment,
> may be allowed to run the equipment, if in the opinion of a club *regular
> *member it meets the club standards.  If the visitor is not a regular
> member of another club, then their equipment must be evaluated by a
> *regular* member before it is allowed on the layout.  *Qualified* junior
> members must get approval from a *regular* member to allow junior member
> visitors to put equipment on the layout.  It will be evaluated for club
> standards.
>
> Dean
>
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2018 7:34 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
>
> Non-members cannot run trains unless they are monitored by members, or the non-member is old enough to be a junior member being monitored by a member or junior member.
>
> -Chad
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From accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org  Fri Feb 23 17:38:55 2018
From: accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org (ACCRS HO Scale)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:38:55 -0800
Subject: [Accrs-ho] High Bridge
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Members,

There was a Fly Fishing show at the Fairgrounds today.   I attended as 
that is one of my other hobbies.   Before leaving, I took the 
superstructure down off the high bridge and brought it home for 
repairs.   I should have it back in a week or two.   Certainly in time 
for the Good Guys show.

The track work is still in place, so it will not effect the running of 
trains.  I had mentioned this at the last monthly meeting and just got 
around to picking it up.

Dean

