[Accrs-ho] Last Friday night at the club

ACCRS HO Scale accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org
Thu Mar 24 22:37:45 PDT 2016


That's true. Last winter we just gave it a whack and it went on again.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 10:35 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
wrote:

> Message From: D. Marc Stearman  dmstearman at gmail.com
>
>
> I agree with Joel. I have found especially when it is cold the relay seems
> to get stuck a bit. If you listen closely there is a ticking sound. I have
> found it to be very quiet. If you give it a little flick the sound gets
> louder and the lights start flashing. I'm guessing we just need a new
> relay.
>
> Marc
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 10:29 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> wrote:
>
> Message From: Joel Clark  clark.joel.a at gmail.com
>
> Climb under the layout next to right side of dispatch. Along the wall
> under Oildale is a bunch of Chubb boards. These boards should be lighting
> up when a train is detected. If not, well then we know we have a much
> bigger problem.
> If they are lighting ok, then from each board they all feed into a relay
> that provides the flashing signal to dispatch. It's a little board to the
> left of the Chubb boards that looks like a smaller version of a Chubb
> board. That relay board is what keeps causing the system to go out. Usually
> after i disconnect and reconnect it a few times it comes back.
> It should be clicking away, if it's not clicking then it probably finally
> died. I think its been on its last legs for awhile, which is probably why
> it gets fussy like this.
> You could also just wire around the relay board in a pinch. It just
> provides flashing, and as far as I can tell the system should work without
> it, just a steady "on" light.
> -Joel
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 10:11 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Message From: Wayne Toigo  w_toigo at hotmail.com
>>
>>
>> I had to look at it a number of years ago when we redesigned the port
>> area and made a number of other additions to the layout.  I think there is
>> some documentation in the big white Master Electrical binder (upstairs in
>> the cabinets).  But if one of the circuit boards has gone bad, then the
>> whole system might be DOA.
>>
>> The control boards are all under the layout on that distribution panel
>> that feeds each block (not in the main dispatch panel; that just contains
>> the flashing LED indicators).
>>
>> The only thing the small relay does is to flash the LED indicators. I
>> can't remember if you pull the relay out if all the indicators just stay
>> lit when a block is occupied (and not flash), or if they don't light at
>> all.  I'd have to look at that.
>>
>> I do remember that the entire block system is fed by the common rail. So
>> if there's a break leading back to the detector boards, it might knock out
>> the whole system.  I'd have to look. But as I remember it was a confusing
>> system because of how intertwined it is with existing track power.
>>
>> If no one else wants to tackle it, I could take a look.  But it might be
>> time to think about a replacement system.
>>
>> -Wayne
>>
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 9:40 PM, ACCRS HO Scale <accrs-ho at mail.accrs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Message From: Gary Lewis  glgslewis at comcast.net
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> There were a reasonable number of folks running trains last Friday
>> night.  However, it became difficult to track them when the occupancy light
>> system went dead.  Not being an electrical whizz-bang, I don’t have a clue
>> as what component caused the problem.  Garran thought it might be a relay,
>> but then the question was “do we have any spares”?  Bottom line is that we
>> need someone with knowledge about the system to troubleshoot it and get it
>> back on line.  Do we have any volunteers?  It’s surprising how difficult it
>> is to dispatch trains blind!
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary
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