[Accrs-ho] Tunnel Portals

[ACCRS HO Scale]

I am not against notching the tunnels as it looks cool.   I don't think 
they notch stone work tunnels as it would weaken them.  We would have to 
do something to change to concrete style or raise the ones we have.

Dean



On 2/10/2015 9:35 AM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
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> Dean
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> The tunnel idea has merit...I am not sure but all of the UP (ex WP) 
> are concrete entrances between Sunol and Niles in the canyon.
>
> Jere
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>     Message From: Dean & Margaret Lewis lewis2 at earthlink.net
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>     That is true.   However, most of our tunnel portals are stone
>     type.   I am not so sure in reality could notch a stone tunnel
>     with a keystone in the center.   Maybe we could flll the stone
>     work with plaster and convert them to concrete style and notch them.
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>     Dean
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>     On 2/8/2015 1:05 PM, ACCRS HO Scale wrote:
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>         Folks
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>         Niles Canyon UP tunnels have the stack train "notch" in them.
>         You can see them if you look closely driving the highway
>         between  Sunol and Niles.
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>         Jere Ingram
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>             *Sent: *February 7, 2015 at 9:15 PM
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>             Message From: Lee And Joan Buckner buckyrailfan at aol.com
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>             Hi Dean:
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>             I have in the past run a string of two 5-unit sets of
>             Maersk double-stack cars, with my Maersk lettered Santa Fe
>             GP60M, and didn't have any problems, with them, but it was
>             a short train.  In the future I was planning on running a
>             longer train of various stack cars, and agree with you,
>             that something should be done to the tunnel portals. 
>             "Notches" perhaps, like the prototype does.  In fact, just
>             like the Santa Fe did on Techeapi Pass for the SP.
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>             Lee
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>             Sent: Sat, Feb 7, 2015 9:04 pm
>             Subject: [Accrs-ho] Tunnel Portals
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>             Message From: Dean&  Margaret Lewislewis2 at earthlink.net
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>             Members,
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>             I was out at the club yesterday setting up a double stack train that I
>             have been working on for quite some time.  I got a whole string of cars
>             set up at Oildale (passenger track, Peter was running on the freight
>             side), put some power on the front and headed towards the port.
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>             Coming out of the tunnel, by Grainger, it was noted that there was very
>             little clearance between the top of the stacks and the tunnel portal.
>             Clearance would have been better if I was on the freight side.
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>             Ran around the back and snagged a wire about a 1/3rd of the way along
>             Hidden.   Fixed that and continued the run under the city.   Didn't
>             check clearance at the other side, but no problems occured..
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>             1. Problem #1, tunnel portal not tall enough to clear stacks at
>             Jamestown.  Most missed, but one caught.   Put the train back together,
>             backed it down, switched over to the passenger track and continued up
>             the layout.   Still just barely cleared.
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>             2. Problem #2.   First tunnel entering summit seemed ok.  Middle tunnels
>             seemed ok.   Tunnel exiting Summit not ok on either end.  Something
>             caught, midway, and string lined half the train.   Front half was
>             catching on bridge or just barely clearing.
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>             3.  Problem #3.  Tunnel exiting the helix just barely clears.  That was
>             as far as we got with the train.  By then, most cars were off the layout
>             and back in boxes.
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>             We need some serious tunnel work if we want to run stack cars, and  I
>             think we should do it.
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>             Jere ran stacks on the Sunday of the train show and it appeared they
>             made it around without problems.  Go figure.
>
>             Dean
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